We have "experts" that have apologetics for EVERYTHING. That is the one thing this exercise has proved. You know my websites and I know your's as far as where we'll find the apologetics we're going to cut and paste. Let's go to the next one
Actually, I'm not terribly familiar with the sites you use. I read them as you post them. I didn't even bother going to a website regarding Isaiah 7. It's just a matter of reading comprehension (regarding the scripture itself).
Unless I explicitly state otherwise, I won't assume what your reactions are going to be. You might surprise me. I won't refrain from saying what I think about it... but I was hoping you might make the effort to find something (or know something offhand/by your own reading of the text) regarding the very two specific points I mentioned (which is something not often done).
But since you're ready to move on... let's.
FROM THE ROOT AND STUMP OF JESSE
Isaiah 11:10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious. 700 B.C.
Isaiah 11:1-5 [1] A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit. [2] The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD-- [3] and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears; [4] but with righteousness he will judge the needy, with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth. He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth; with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked. [5] Righteousness will be his belt and faithfulness the sash around his waist. 700 B.C.
Romans 15:12 And again, Isaiah says, "The Root of Jesse will spring up, one who will arise to rule over the nations; the Gentiles will hope in him." Matthew 1:1-2a, 5-6, 16 [1] A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham: [2] Abraham was the father of Isaac, ... [5] ... Obed the father of Jesse, [6] and Jesse the father of King David. [16] and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ
We can kind of skip past the parts where I wholeheartedly disagree that Jesus was righteous, just, wise, that he had any power and/or ruled over anything, etc... and go to the heart of two matters:
Isaiah 11 and the genealogy of Jesus.
First, Isaiah 11.
Let's take a look at the whole chapter.
1. And a shoot shall spring forth from the stem of Jesse, and a twig shall sprout from his roots.
2. And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, a spirit of wisdom and understanding, a spirit of counsel and heroism, a spirit of knowledge and fear of the Lord.
3. And he shall be animated by the fear of the Lord, and neither with the sight of his eyes shall he judge, nor with the hearing of his ears shall he chastise.
4. And he shall judge the poor justly, and he shall chastise with equity the humble of the earth, and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth and with the breath of his lips he shall put the wicked to death.
5. And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faith the girdle of his loins.
6. And a wolf shall live with a lamb, and a leopard shall lie with a kid; and a calf and a lion cub and a fatling [shall lie] together, and a small child shall lead them.
7. And a cow and a bear shall graze together, their children shall lie; and a lion, like cattle, shall eat straw.
8. And an infant shall play over the hole of an old snake and over the eyeball of an adder, a weaned child shall stretch forth his hand.
9. They shall neither harm nor destroy on all My holy mount, for the land shall be full of knowledge of the Lord as water covers the sea bed.
10. And it shall come to pass on that day, that the root of Jesse, which stands as a banner for peoples, to him shall the nations inquire, and his peace shall be [with] honor.
11. And it shall come to pass that on that day, the Lord shall continue to apply His hand a second time to acquire the rest of His people, that will remain from Assyria and from Egypt and from Pathros and from Cush and from Elam and from Sumeria and from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.
12. And He shall raise a banner to the nations, and He shall gather the lost of Israel, and the scattered ones of Judah He shall gather from the four corners of the earth.
13. And the envy of Ephraim shall cease, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off; Ephraim shall not envy Judah, nor shall Judah vex Ephraim.
14. And they shall fly of one accord against the Philistines in the west, together they shall plunder the children of the East; upon Edom and Moab shall they stretch forth their hand, and the children of Ammon shall obey them.
15. And the Lord shall dry up the tongue of the Egyptian Sea, and He shall lift His hand over the river with the strength of His wind, and He shall beat it into seven streams, and He shall lead [the exiles] with shoes.
16. And there shall be a highway for the remnant of His people who remain from Assyria, as there was for Israel on the day they went up from the land of Egypt.
World peace, ingathering of the exiles back into the nation of Israel, universal knowledge of God. None of this has occurred, thus this particular root, shoot, spout, sprout, stump, or twig of Jesse has yet to appear on the scene.
I cannot stress this enough... you cannot hope to separate the first third of this chapter from the other two thirds and be taken seriously. Can't do it.
You suggested early on that issues with translation would be the problem in every (if not, nearly every) case. That's not the case.
The problem with every (if not, nearly every) case is the text being violently ripped out of context.
If there are 8 billion descendants of Jesse (a number I picked at random for the sake of argument), not a single one of them can be said to have fulfilled this prophecy if anything described in the chapter hasn't come true.
It's like asserting that the fact he was Jewish is a prophecy fulfilled. I'm Jewish, yet you don't consider me the messiah. There must be something more, and you have yet to show me anything more so far in this thread.
So, in simple terms, the fact that he didn't fulfill anything written in Isaiah 11 is an indication that he isn't the fellow being spoken about in Isaiah 11. You can't ignore the rest of the chapter. When you bring me a lack of prophecy fulfillment and call it a fulfilled prophecy, it must be either pure ignorance or willful deception. (Again, I'm not saying these things about you, but about the gospel writers.)
Onto the genealogy of Jesus. One of those things that I have gone on about for pages and pages in the past...
Here's a few reasons (in no particular order) why the genealogy of Jesus provided by Matthew can be dismissed as having any messianic relevance.
1. The author leaves out a bunch of names and then has the audacity to count the number of generations, despite it being absolutely wrong. There's a red flag. This is obviously something that can't be trusted at all.
2. The name Jechoniah is on the list. This is a man who was cut off from the messianic line. The name Jechoniah in a genealogy of Jesus automatically bumps Jesus off the list of possible candidates for being the Messiah.
3. The whole "virgin birth" thing. That cancels out the relevance of the whole list. It also cancels out any possible connection to David in any meaningful way. The genealogy described is that of Joseph, not Jesus.
And of course, Joseph having Jechoniah in his line disqualifies him from passing along the messianic heritage, even if we throw out the virgin birth and say Joseph was Jesus' father.
And no, tribal affiliation (i.e. the 12 tribes) doesn't transfer by way of adoption, nor does it travel down through the mother. (so if we have a proposed lineage of Mary back to David, it is utterly irrelevant.)
So if you believe that Jesus has no biological father, Jesus has no messianic claim to be the stump, root, shoot, branch, or twig of Jesse or David.