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Discussion in 'Theological Concepts' started by dingdao, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. dingdao

    dingdao The eternal Tao cannot be told - Tao Te Ching

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    Earthling wanted to prove the existence of the soul. Let's start with something much simpler.

    Prove to me that you are not a bot.

    I will quote those responses I find interesting.
     
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  2. Nakosis

    Nakosis crystal soldier
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    I don't think a bot would be programed to respond with a nonsensical response.

    Like if I were to call you a "wertney-spot".
     
  3. beenherebeforeagain

    beenherebeforeagain Rogue Animist
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    how about you prove to us that you are not a bot...
     
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  4. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    I liken myself to be more akin as a mech rather than a bot.

    When it really comes down to it, we're nothing more than a community of individual cells working together and operating an organic machine.
     
  5. lewisnotmiller

    lewisnotmiller Grand Hat
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    Actually, it would be easy to get a bot to respond with a nonsensical word like 'wertney-spot'.
    Harder to make another bot identify the nonsense name, and then write a post like this one referring to wertney-spot in context, but still possible.

    To pass this Turing test is increasingly difficult in any simple manner, but if you asked me a very specific and quirky question I could then respond to effectively that might do it.

    But then, the issues are;
    1) you might be the bot, not me!
    2) I might not know the reference or answer. Saying 'What?' would sound suspicious. So maybe a series of quirky questions??
     
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  6. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium सच्चिदानन्द
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    I cannot be that of which I am aware.
     
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  7. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Ok.

    Am I a bot or am I not a bot?
     
  8. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    If I were a practicing solipsist, I would assert that you are all figments of my imagination.
     
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  9. dybmh

    dybmh Terminal Optimist
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    The proof would be multiple coincidences, multiple serendipities.

    The more coincidences or serendipities, the more likely that I am not a bot.

    Basically, we would need to get to know each other. Trade stories, tell each other jokes, share weird ideas we've had. And eventually, if we are lucky ( assuming you believe in luck ), it won't take too long for the likelihood that I am a bot would diminish under layer after layer of improbable coincidences.

    Here's an example: You and I actually had the same idea about how to prove bot-status. But we approached it from different perspectives.

    Take a look at this thread: Does A.I. have limits?

    It was created before you joined.

    And I was honestly thinking at the time about the Terminator movies, where the dogs were used to distinguish between the bots and the humans.

    When I created the thread above, I was thinking: In the context of AI, how will be be able to tell the difference if they were biologically identical and dogs wouldn't work. Or if the AI had no biological form and only existed within the digital framework. If I can find the limits of AI, that would be a way to test for AI-ish-ness. Does that make sense?

    Anyways... regarding testing for Bot-i-tude; Here's the list i've come up with.

    How to tell AI from Human?

    Humans suspend disbelief
    Humans have fun
    Humans forget, remember, and are surprised

    I am not sure how AI can replicate these things effectively.
    But I am not sure how humans could test for these with 100% certainty either.

    Am I close?

    After reading this, what's your confidence I am not a Bot?
     
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  10. Srivijaya

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    How do you define bot?
     
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  11. Polymath257

    Polymath257 Think & Care
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    I believe I *am* a biological bot.
     
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  12. WalterTrull

    WalterTrull Godfella

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    BOTTLIZE THIS! :cool:
     
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  13. Nakosis

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    Why not?

    I see myself as a CNS in a meat suit. If we could photograph my CNS I would be aware of what I am.
     
  14. Dan From Smithville

    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
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    I cannot be a bot because I really like pizza and beer. Bots do not like pizza and beer.
     
  15. beenherebeforeagain

    beenherebeforeagain Rogue Animist
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    But a bot might SAY that they like beer and pizza...how would you know if they did?
     
  16. Salvador

    Salvador RF's Swedenborgian

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    The bottom half squares are the ones with the street signs...there are you now satisfied I'm not a robot.


    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Dan From Smithville

    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
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    Drat!

    OK. I never lie about pizza and beer.
     
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  18. Dan From Smithville

    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
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    OK. You got me. I am here looking for Sarah Connor.
     
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  19. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    If I were a bot I would, of course, tell you I wasn't, so I'm telling you that I am thus proving that I am not.
     
  20. dybmh

    dybmh Terminal Optimist
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    May I point out that any correct answer provided is only good once.

    Just once. After that...

    { looking left and right suspiciously }

    shhhhhhh

    the Google knows...

    But for the record. I win. I am not a Bot.

    Humans are super-duper arrogant.
     
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