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Featured Producing life from non living matter

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by FearGod, May 19, 2017.

  1. FearGod

    FearGod Freedom Of Mind

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    If life wasn't a product done by a creator, then what prevents us from creating it
    the same way as it has been done by the unconscious nature.

    This challenge was offered by God thousands years ago, as to create living creatures, can we?
     
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    arthra Baha'i

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    In my belief the creation is a continuous radiation or emanation from God... It has no beginning and no end but is continuous..
     
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    I wouldn't disbelieve in God if some scientist found a way to create life.
    Jesus is said to have replaced a severed ear, yet a good doctor could do the same, just not by miracle.
     
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    Valjean Veteran Member
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    Careful what you wish for. Other challenges like this have been undertaken and achieved.
     
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    We haven't figured out the formulae, and if we do we may not be able to reproduce it. Isn't that obvious?

    I must have missed that chapter and verse. Which is it?

    Only time will tell.

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  6. FearGod

    FearGod Freedom Of Mind

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    O people, an example is presented, so listen to it. Indeed, those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose. And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him. Weak are the pursuer and pursued.(22:73)
     
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    Not to make a debate out of this, but doesn't "And if the fly should steal away from them a [tiny] thing, they could not recover it from him." give lie to the claim that "those you invoke besides Allah will never create [as much as] a fly, even if they gathered together for that purpose"? The latter says no fly can be made, yet the former assumes that just such a fly was made.

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    The former is about the actual fly which is God's creation, the fly is small in size and the things
    that it gets is so tiny that we have no power to get it back from the weak fly.
     
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    Indeed some people believe that Golem(Jewish folklore) can be made of clay.
    In my youth I tried it with some of my friends, we surprisingly failed but got freaked out for a while.
     
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    FearGod Freedom Of Mind

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    It's really amazing that it says that the fly carry a tiny thing, as we know today that the fly carries tiny things with it legs.
     
  11. A Greased Scotsman

    A Greased Scotsman THIS is a sword. And it's bigger than yours!

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    Technological impairment. We haven't got to the point technologically where we can produce life from synthetic elements. Yet.

    That said, while we can't create entirely new lifeforms from synthetic materials, we can create limbs for people who've lost parts or all of theirs. Why can't your god do that?
     
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  12. FearGod

    FearGod Freedom Of Mind

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    That's why God gave us minds, it's like saying why we need to work and feed ourselves,
    why not God feeds us.
     
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    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    The same thing that kept airplanes and radios away from physical existence for so long: we did not know how to build them yet.

    I'm pretty certain that the challenge, such as it is, comes from theists and not from any god.
     
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    While we have knowledge and minds and still we can't create a living creature, but the unconscious nature did it.

    What makes you that certain and sure?
     
  15. A Greased Scotsman

    A Greased Scotsman THIS is a sword. And it's bigger than yours!

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    So in defence of your Kent Hovind challenge, you deploy this cop-out.
     
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    I didn't make the challenge, God made it knowing that we'll never do it.
    Don't you see how silly it's when believing that the unconscious nature did it while we claim
    that we don't have the knowledge yet to do it?
     
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    Where do you draw the line between life and non-life?
     
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    FearGod Freedom Of Mind

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    What that question has to do with our ability to create a living creature?
     
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    Everything.
    You have to declare a dividing line for anything if you want to test it.
     
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    Amazing isn't exactly the word I would use for observing a fly carry something, and then writing about it...
     
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