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Pro-Tip: History can't be erased

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
George Washington owned slaves. What about that can we erase or change? Shall we forget that he was the first president and take him out of the history books? Some things just do not make sense.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
George Washington owned slaves. What about that can we erase or change? Shall we forget that he was the first president and take him out of the history books? Some things just do not make sense.

Yes he did, but he did not wage a war to divide the nation to support the institutions of slavery.
 

WalterTrull

Godfella
If we erect a statue, does that mean we revere the subject? I guess in the past it did. So, when we change our minds, should we tear it down or leave it up as a reminder? Another guess is that it has to do with the maturity of the observers.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
Another guess is that it has to do with the maturity of the observers.

That's a fairly loaded comment; what's a "mature reaction" to have in front of a monument errected to the glory and nobility of a confederate soldier or commander during the onset of the Jim Crow era?
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
George Washington owned slaves. What about that can we erase or change? Shall we forget that he was the first president and take him out of the history books? Some things just do not make sense.

If you know of a statue of Washington depicting him with a bunch of black people in chains kneeling around him - one that CELEBRATES the fact that he owned slaves - then by all means, tear it down! Any statue of Washington should be celebrating the fact that he lead this nation to independence during the revolutionary war and acted as our first president.

If you're going to erect a statue in honor of someone who fought for the Confederacy then it had better be for doing something other than having fought a losing war in an attempt to break apart this great nation. That's NOT something that any true American would want to celebrate.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Maybe History can't be erased... but it can be forgotten...

Repeat of the Civil War anyone?

And you think that removing statues that celebrate people who rose up and tried to break this great nation apart will somehow cause a second Civil War? These same statues that are so popular among people who say things like "The South will rise again!" or who routine call for the South to secede from the union?
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
George Washington owned slaves. What about that can we erase or change? Shall we forget that he was the first president and take him out of the history books? Some things just do not make sense.

Did Washington treasonously and traitorously attack the US? If so, bring his statues down and rename DC and the state of Washington.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Unfortunately if you think history can't be erased you are sadly wrong.
History can be changed to the point that people believe the change is the history.
Now it may take time, but eventually those that knew what the real history was are gone or their accounts are not believed in either voice or print..
When that happens you have basically erased history.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
Unfortunately if you think history can't be erased you are sadly wrong.
History can be changed to the point that people believe the change is the history.
Now it may take time, but eventually those that knew what the real history was are gone or their accounts are not believed in either voice or print..
When that happens you have basically erased history.

Can you present an historical event or series of event where you believe history has been erased as well as your reasonning behind this choice?
 

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
If you know of a statue of Washington depicting him with a bunch of black people in chains kneeling around him - one that CELEBRATES the fact that he owned slaves - then by all means, tear it down! Any statue of Washington should be celebrating the fact that he lead this nation to independence during the revolutionary war and acted as our first president.

If you're going to erect a statue in honor of someone who fought for the Confederacy then it had better be for doing something other than having fought a losing war in an attempt to break apart this great nation. That's NOT something that any true American would want to celebrate.
We are not talking about statues. We are talking about history. Should we change history to eliminate all signs of slavery? And all mention of anyone who owned or supported slavery?
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
The thread is about history. Should we change history. Should we remove from the history books any mention of anyone who owned slaves?

Removing Confederate Monuments Won’t Erase History, But Could Correct It

Not sure if you bothered to read the OP but this thread IS about weather or not removing offensive statues will in any way cause us to 'erase' of 'forget' our history. How does removing a statue that celebrates the leaders of a cause whose primary goal was to break this nation apart in ANY way equate to 'removing from the history books any mention of slavery'?
 
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