kai
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Israel and Hamas agree a deal to free hundreds of Palestinian prisoners in return for the release of captive Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, snatched by militants five years ago.
BBC News - Middle East
BBC News - Middle East
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Prisoner swap deal to free Shalit
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JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
That is good.
Gilad has been captured for so long.
Though to be truthful, when I learned about Gilad a while ago from a person I talked to from Israel, I figured he was/ would die in hands of Hamas.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
It seems every time there is a release, the cost of the exchange becomes higher.
hamas seem to know Israel has an open book in these situations.
Many other countries simply won't deal... or they now "arrange" one to one swaps for recently captured senior personnel.
hamas seem to know Israel has an open book in these situations.
Many other countries simply won't deal... or they now "arrange" one to one swaps for recently captured senior personnel.
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Tamar
I am Jewish.
I agree.
I'm glad to see him freed and reunited with is family. But at such a cost.....
Not only is there the issue of the 1000+ prisoners who are to be released, but there is also the precedent set in making such a deal. I wish this could have been accomplished in some other way.
Talk about irresponsible.
Rakhel
Well-Known Member
It's my understanding that he was asleep on the job, and in that sense I agree with you. But my question is, since it is mentioned on American media, are they going to release him before or after Israel releases theirs? Because I think this arrangement was made before, 1000 Palestinians for 1 Israeli, only to have Hamas renege after the Palestinian release. Bargatti(sp) was part of the first exchange wasn't he?
If Hamas releases Shalit, which I doubt, considering their history with Shalit(They've made this deal before, then refused to release him after Israel had kept up their end of bargain), it'll be in a coffin. Who actually believes that he's still alive? Hamas has repeatedly refused to allow any international organization to see or speak with him. If Shalit comes home alive, he should be facing a court martial for dereliction of duty.
You create history and scenarios out of your own vitriol. It's rather pitiful.
Tellurian
Active Member
I wonder if the Israeli "enemy combatant" was tortured with water boarding by Hamas the way the USA treats its interned "enemy combatants"? Is Hamas being more humanitarian than the USA, which has no plans to release the enemy combatants in Gitmo, or give them any kind of trial before they die in captivity?
Poisonshady313
Well-Known Member
No. The following are NOT going to be released:
* Marwan Barghouti who was sentenced to five life sentences for his role in the murders of Israelis during the al-Aksa intifada
* Abdullah Barghouti who is serving out 67 consecutive life terms for building the bombs that murdered 66 people
* Ahmed Saadat who headed the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and was responsible for the assassination of Israeli minister Rehavam Ze'evi
* Hassan Salama, a Hamas leader who was convicted of murdering 67 Israeli citizens
* Abbas a-Sayed, mastermind of the Park Hotel suicide bombing in which 30 Israelis were killed on the eve of Passover 2002
* Ibrahim Hamed, who was found guilty of involvement in terrorist attacks that led to the death of 82 Israelis
Poisonshady313
Well-Known Member
I love how you say "treats"as if it's systematic. If I'm not mistaken, the USA has water boarded three prisoners.
The way Hamas tortures its prisoners makes water boarding delightful by comparison.
No.
Tellurian
Active Member
The USA has only admitted to water boarding three prisoners. What about all those prisoners who died while being "interrogated"?
Relevance?
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
Is there any potential for reconciliation in this?
I do not believe so. Terrorists are freed, Hamas is strengthened, Abbas is overshadowed, and Netanyahu can claim a victory. The sole silver lining, other than the release of Shalit (and, possibly, some unjustly incarcerated Palestinians), appears to be Turkey's mediation efforts which were lauded by Peres.
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
At least there is some silver lining. I am very happy that young man will be returning to his family.