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President Trump signs executive orders providing Unemployment assistance and tax deferment

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Shaul, Aug 9, 2020.

  1. Shaul

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    And yet, we will still own that money, which will come out next year, while disrupting Social Security and Medicare.

    Not to mention that financial stuff should come from Congress, not the White House.

    We are entering into a dictatorship: the leader dictates by executive order and ignores Congress, including oversight (with temporary appointments made with no Congressional approval).
     
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    If Trump refuse to leave office ( if he loses the election) do you think he will re-name America to Trumplandia? :confused:
     
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    More likely Trumpistan.
     
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    I liked your comment, not the Trumpistan :p
     
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    Did you read the article? There are four Executive Orders. One extends the emergency unemployment. One defers payroll deduction of taxes. It does mention it in this article but that is only for those with incomes less than $100,000. A third Order prevents evictions. A fourth suspends student loan payments.
     
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    Does the article mention the Constitutional Amendment that gave the President the power to overrule the House of Representatives on budget issues?
    Tom
     
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    Did you read the article? It mentions that President Trump wants to forego repaying the deferred payroll tax if he is re-elected.

    There isn’t anything dictatorial in these Executive Orders. They are all based in authorizations previously made by Congress and within the purview of the President. Changes in payroll with holdings by Presidents have been done many times by past Presidents.
     
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    The President is using authorizations already made by Congress. There is no Presidential overruling Congress going on.
     
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    Oh, you don’t think Biden will win?
     
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    I am not political anymore, nor do I vote even here in Norway, but of the two guys you voting for in America I do hope Biden wins. The world don't need 4 more years with the Trumpalumpa in the White House.
     
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    Then your unfounded comments about President Trump not accepting the results of the election weren’t political? He accepted the results of the last election. On the other hand the Democrats have demonstrated they refuse accept it for three years now.
     
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    My comment is not political, it is more about aversion toward Trump as a person.
     
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    Absolutely there is. The Congress does not have authority to grant that power to the president. The Constitution says that the Congress has that power, NOT the President.

    And, that the Legislature is rolling over in the establishment of a dictatorship does NOT mean it isn't a dictatorship. The President is ruling by executive decree. THAT is a dictatorship, almost by definition.
     
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    What do you mean they haven't accepted it? They accepted it, but also hold onto their power to hold the President accountable. He has consistently sought to undermine foundational institutions on which this country works. That the Senate has refused to hold him accountable is a serious crime against the Constitution, in my mind. Both Trump and the leadership in the Senate are guilty of nothing short of treason as far as I can see.
     
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    He will deny that he lost the election by playing the gambit he is already preparing: that the election is invalid. To support his takeover, he will use the federal troops that have taken no pledge to the Constitution. Portland was just preparation.
     
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    I am afraid you might be correct here
     
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    Yes, I read the article.
    And I am STILL going to wait to read the actual orders instead of merely picking the media article that I like the best and running with it as though it is gospel.
     
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