Pres. stand against gay rights

[croak]

Obviously, it isn't natural. So why would Allah allow something that goes against what is natural?

Personally, it's gross. :gag:

 

[Sunstone]

Obviously, it isn't natural. So why would Allah allow something that goes against what is natural?

Personally, it's gross. :gag:

I think it's natural for it to seem gross at your age, Rearing Arabian, but when you get a little older you might more easily see the love that many homosexual couples share for each other. Love is pure and sacred, and not at all gross. Love redeems sex, and makes sex very special.

 

[linwood]

Obviously, it isn't natural. So why would Allah allow something that goes against what is natural?

Personally, it's gross. :gag:

RA,
Does the Koran have anything to say on the topic of homosexuality?

 

[huajiro]

I am against anyone who is against anyone they dont know personally.

 

[Master Vigil]

I will keep saying this over and over again.

LOVE TRANSCENDS ALL THINGS PHYSICAL. MARRIAGE IS LOVE, GENDER IS PHYSICAL. THEREFORE MARRIAGE TRANSCENDS GENDER.

 

[Christian_Vegan_Weirdo]

It is good that you have moved beyond the tired dogma of the churches and the ill-advised policies of our witless president. Keep thinking for yourself, even if you take some flak for doing so.

Frubals to you.

Yes, thank you. I want to look at my churches doctrin, and question it very much, to see if it is what I trully believe. However, I want to also look at it through the eyes of the Bible, if you understand what I'm saying by that. I don't want to make stuff up that is important to my religion, I want everything religios that I believe, or even think, to be based on the Bible, not a group of people.

 

[Sunstone]

Yes, thank you. I want to look at my churches doctrin, and question it very much, to see if it is what I trully believe. However, I want to also look at it through the eyes of the Bible, if you understand what I'm saying by that. I don't want to make stuff up that is important to my religion, I want everything religios that I believe, or even think, to be based on the Bible, not a group of people.

I think you might find that the more you study the bible, the more you must think about how to interpret it.

 

[Christian_Vegan_Weirdo]

Obviously, it isn't natural. So why would Allah allow something that goes against what is natural?

Personally, it's gross. :gag:

I use to fell the same as you do. But, going into high school and being able to see so many different people with different beliefs, hobbys, interests etc, has made me more open to others. I personally, based on one of the Bible verses that someone kindly provided for me in here, am still against gay/les marrage. However, I see that we live in the United States, the country that allows freedom blah blah blah, so we must respect the right of gays and lesbians. I can legally get married to a man (I'm girl) and the other way around, then why can't a guy marry a guy, or a girl a girl. It is true that it is agianst my religion (from what I read here) to be gay/les, but I shouldn't impress my beliefs on others.

Now looking back, I can see why I was always agianst being gay/les, but I still don't understand how I saw it as grose. gay/les. relationships often last much longer then "strate" relationships do, they still love each other, we live in a country free of religios ideals/beliefs being forced on anyone or anything. We should respect that, for all, not just those that think like you do, but others also, like the ones who's relationships "are grose."

But I'm just a tired, 15-year old, conservative Christian, who is obsessive compolsive, and REALLY weird, so what do I know? :sarcastic

 

[Christian_Vegan_Weirdo]

I think you might find that the more you study the bible, the more you must think about how to interpret it.

Yes, I have defently found that! I made a New Years resolution to do devotions every day last year, and I'm still following that resolution now. I have defently seen through my devotions how this is true. This is one reason why I think that I need to really look into this, if possable, on as much of a Christian base as I can. I'm making many attemps, so we'll see what the final outcome is....

But another thing that I have learned, is that when trying to interpret parts of the Bible, it's always helpful to compare it to other parts of the Bible, and to look at what is happening, how, when, and all of that.

I'm trying to interpret the Bible for myself, which is I geuss what my point is above; Instead of taking the Presbyterian's vew on everything. While doing this, however, I often find myself agreeing with the PCA's doctrin on many things.

That's about all for now,
Jennifer

 

[Quoth The Raven]

Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.

Thats it there ya go.

Yep, and as I pointed out in another thread, banging your camel is only confusion. Sounds like someone was a bit skewed toward the pack animals...

 

[Quoth The Raven]

I don't get it. There are over 300 species of animals that scientists have identified as having homosexuality. That would strongly suggest that homosexuality is natural. The fact there are biblical passages which seem to contradict that homosexuality is natural, does not change the fact that over 300 species have been observed to have homosexual behavior.

So did God create nature or not? And if God created nature, why did he create over 300 species with homosexual behavior, but then turn around and condemn homosexuality in the bible?

Ever seen Mommy Dearest?

 

[Bastet]

Obviously, it isn't natural. So why would Allah allow something that goes against what is natural?

Personally, it's gross. :gag:

Ya know, I could take all this very personally, post a big long rant attacking you and your parentage...but right now I can't be bothered.

If you think that love in its infinite variety is unnatural, then you're in for a very lonely life.

If you think that homosexual sex is 'gross', then may I suggest that you do not engage in it, or watch lesbian porn (as many straight men are guilty of doing).

Further than that, I don't think you have any business condemning what goes on in anyone's bedroom other than your own.

 

[retrorich]

If you think that love in its infinite variety is unnatural, then you're in for a very lonely life. If you think that homosexual sex is 'gross', then may I suggest that you do not engage in it, or watch lesbian porn (as many straight men are guilty of doing).

Further than that, I don't think you have any business condemning what goes on in anyone's bedroom other than your own.

Well said! Frubals to you.

Once again, the Frubals God wouldn't let me give you frubals until I spread some Karma around. He/She sure is bossy!

 

[Alien_Youth]

On this rather heated debate here are my thoughts. I am religiously (I am a born again christian) opposed to gay marriage, however I know that I live in a country where everyone has equal rights and freedoms. I know that there will always be some gays/les. I find the idea of a gay marriage a little odd but if I'm not involved in it or have to deal with it then who am I to judge. God will judge us all on the one day in the future when we all must stand before him and confess our sins

Just my thoughts

God Bless

Alien_Youth