But explain to me how pre-marital sex cheapens life.
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Premarital Sex?
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Scott1
Well-Known Member
Ummmm.... did you not read the whole thread?... I already explained.
Scott1
Well-Known Member
Well...no.
It's what I believe to be true... and truth is truth for everyone... but I respect everyone's decision to live life as they choose... I'm only giving my opinion that there is MORE pleasure in certain situations than others, however difficult it may be for some to understand.
Thanks for your comments,
S
Scott1
Well-Known Member
Not sure if you were expecting me to quote scientific research done on my "Marital Pleasure Meter 3000 Model XB7" (it's really still in the developmental stage).... but I'm glad you are satisfied with my answer.
What exactly does the research claim, Scott?
Scott1
Well-Known Member
Like I said... the XB7 is in the developmental stage... the XB6 kept clogging up with the fairy dust we use to operate the phalicwarp drive.... I'm hoping to develop the XB7 and THEN figure out what to research... maybe the ability to detect sarcasm would be helpful for the general public..... might be a money maker.
S
Poor me. The thing is I do have a sarcasm radar. I guess I missed yours.
Lindsey-Loo
Steel Magnolia
Yeah, that makes sense to me. Like I've said before, those of us teens who will not engage in premarital sex have already decided that and don't need a class all about telling us to never have sex. All those other kids are going to do whatever they want no matter what some guidance counselor tells them, so they might as well know the safest and most responsible way to do it...so to speak...
rojse
RF Addict
I would assume approximately 100 percent.
Quiddity
UndertheInfluenceofGiants
It's meaningless rhetoric to some, while it's very meaningful to others. Not sure how science can apply to things like "meaningful", "cheapens", etc. Such things can't be measured and are intertwined with people's world views.
As for me, well, Scott pretty much said it all.
Although there are more then enough studies indicating the damage that comes from cohabitating before marriage. One in particular that pops to mind is:
Shacking Up: 40 Reasons Why Not to by Dr. Laura
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Schools do need to teach proper sex ed, rather than myths and lies. While no one will argue that abstinence is the most effective way to not become pregnant or contract a STD, there are ways to help prevent it, and the wishy-washy sex ed my school provided claimed none of them worked that good.
With real sex ed, I'm sure the rate of STD's and teen pregnancies would dramatically drop. People are going to have to sex, and 90% of them is, IMO, a good enough number to change things.
With real sex ed, I'm sure the rate of STD's and teen pregnancies would dramatically drop. People are going to have to sex, and 90% of them is, IMO, a good enough number to change things.
Abstinence may be the best way to prevent pregnancy and STDs, but teaching abstinence is not. This is because teaching abstinence does not actually lead to people practicing abstinence, generally.
madhatter85
Transhumanist
The act of intercourse is a wonderful thing and is cheapened by premarital sex.
a friend asked me the age-old question "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?" when i told him i was getting married.
without hesitation i said "Because I love the cow, and she gives good milk." (not that my wife is a cow, mind you.... she is far from looking like anything with a hoof)
but yes, i think it cheapens it and makes a mockery of it. same thing for abortion, granted i think there are cases where aborton is acceptable (rape, incest, and the mother's life at stake), but not an abortion for convenience. it cheapens the value of life.
Hope
Princesinha
I agree with Scott on this issue as well.
I think part of the reason people don't see how marriage vows make sex any more meaningful is because so many people these days don't take those vows seriously enough, and don't take promises in general seriously enough.
When you make a promise or a vow to someone with little intention of keeping that promise or vow, then it shows one of two things: either you have no idea what a vow or promise really is, or you do and are simply very selfish and untrustworthy.
When sex is kept within the context of a solemn vow of faithfulness, it allows the two people to trust each other more, and therefore be truly intimate. True intimacy cannot be established without complete trust, and vows are meant to provide that trust.
I think part of the reason people don't see how marriage vows make sex any more meaningful is because so many people these days don't take those vows seriously enough, and don't take promises in general seriously enough.
When you make a promise or a vow to someone with little intention of keeping that promise or vow, then it shows one of two things: either you have no idea what a vow or promise really is, or you do and are simply very selfish and untrustworthy.
When sex is kept within the context of a solemn vow of faithfulness, it allows the two people to trust each other more, and therefore be truly intimate. True intimacy cannot be established without complete trust, and vows are meant to provide that trust.
Are you seriously suggesting that "true intimacy" cannot be established without vows?
Hmm.
Personally, I don't think that marriage vows provide trust, but rather that they acknowledge the trust already present.