Vortex1087
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Not everyone believes in "sin." Lust is a natural part of being a human being for some people. Therefore, your condemnation of it is only applicable to those who believe as you do.
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Pornography
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painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
I know several marrages that have not been harmed by a little porn now and again. It doesn't need to harm family stucture nor is it indignant to all.
by the way I don't beleve eveything I read, nor everything I hear on the radio... and I don't watch TV so that is out.
I would be careful with any institution that clamed to spread and reveal the 'truth'.
if you don't like porn...once again, don't look at it... simple isn't it.
wa:do
by the way I don't beleve eveything I read, nor everything I hear on the radio... and I don't watch TV so that is out.
I would be careful with any institution that clamed to spread and reveal the 'truth'.
if you don't like porn...once again, don't look at it... simple isn't it.
wa:do
trishtrish10
Active Member
porn is inescapable. it's everywhere. stop it before it stops u.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
I fail to see how 'porn' will stop me.... Porn is only there if you look for it... If you find it inescapable perhaps you are looking to find it.
wa:do
wa:do
Greyson
Member
The whole issue of pornogropgy is overated. I happen to be married and a Reverend, and there are two things mine wife and I disagree on...pornogrophy and Religion.
I use to view pornogrophy as healthy, but since getting married I have long since stopped watching or even viewing online, such material. Is it wrong to look at pornogrophy? Well, I think to answer that would put a person in the judgement seat, and who are we to judge really? Some people like it, while others do not. It is simple really...if it offends a person, don't look. If it doesn't, then enjoy, just do not get addicted to it, for if you do, then you'll need to seek help. We are more than the sum of our body parts. As it is written..."Everything in moderation."
Ty.
Greyson
I use to view pornogrophy as healthy, but since getting married I have long since stopped watching or even viewing online, such material. Is it wrong to look at pornogrophy? Well, I think to answer that would put a person in the judgement seat, and who are we to judge really? Some people like it, while others do not. It is simple really...if it offends a person, don't look. If it doesn't, then enjoy, just do not get addicted to it, for if you do, then you'll need to seek help. We are more than the sum of our body parts. As it is written..."Everything in moderation."
Ty.
Greyson
trishtrish10
Active Member
runt all u have to do is go shopping and u are splaatttered with it. u dont watch much t.v., etc.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
huh? unless you are browsing adult book stores your not splattered with porn...
unless you have a different definition of porn... ie showing two(or more) adults engaged in the act of sex.
wa:do
unless you have a different definition of porn... ie showing two(or more) adults engaged in the act of sex.
wa:do
johnnys4life
Pro-life Mommy
Are people who use porn cheating on their spouses?
Well I can't speak for all people, but I for one was horrified when I found out my husband looked at porn. I thought I had married a good Christian guy, and for the most part I had, and I'd always thought that good Christian guys don't do that. He even wrote a whole big speech on the internet against pornography. I have also found out that a lot of my guy friends (also "good, Christian boys") look at it too! From all I've seen, I am starting to think ALL guys do that, and those who say they don't are just embarrassed to admit it.
My husband and I fought a lot about it in the past, and it has really hurt our relationship a lot. I think it is wrong, and so he says he is "trying to cut down". He swears he thinks I'm the most beautiful thing in the world, nor am I a prude with him at all, but I still feel like there must be something wrong with me or us for him to go and do that. He thinks it is no big deal and says the same things a lot of you guys have said to defend it. But I feel like it is cheating, and yes I am jealous. To not admit that would just be lying.
... and now I just pretend like it doesn't bother me so we don't fight about it, but it still does. I try to tell myself it it's nothing, but every time I see he has new pictures or something, I get sick to my stomach wondering what day it was and where I was and what I was doing when he was looking at it. It makes me sick because I can't help it, was I taking care of the baby, washing the dishes? Going to the grocery store? It makes me sad and even though I love him to death, I absolutely resent him for it. I'm not as hurt as I'd be if he'd actually gone out and cheated on me, but it still hurts.
And you know, I'm a girl, I'm insecure enough about my body, and so part of me is saying "those girls are all skinnier or better looking than me. Maybe that's what he'd rather have."
Well I can't speak for all people, but I for one was horrified when I found out my husband looked at porn. I thought I had married a good Christian guy, and for the most part I had, and I'd always thought that good Christian guys don't do that. He even wrote a whole big speech on the internet against pornography. I have also found out that a lot of my guy friends (also "good, Christian boys") look at it too! From all I've seen, I am starting to think ALL guys do that, and those who say they don't are just embarrassed to admit it.
My husband and I fought a lot about it in the past, and it has really hurt our relationship a lot. I think it is wrong, and so he says he is "trying to cut down". He swears he thinks I'm the most beautiful thing in the world, nor am I a prude with him at all, but I still feel like there must be something wrong with me or us for him to go and do that. He thinks it is no big deal and says the same things a lot of you guys have said to defend it. But I feel like it is cheating, and yes I am jealous. To not admit that would just be lying.
... and now I just pretend like it doesn't bother me so we don't fight about it, but it still does. I try to tell myself it it's nothing, but every time I see he has new pictures or something, I get sick to my stomach wondering what day it was and where I was and what I was doing when he was looking at it. It makes me sick because I can't help it, was I taking care of the baby, washing the dishes? Going to the grocery store? It makes me sad and even though I love him to death, I absolutely resent him for it. I'm not as hurt as I'd be if he'd actually gone out and cheated on me, but it still hurts.
And you know, I'm a girl, I'm insecure enough about my body, and so part of me is saying "those girls are all skinnier or better looking than me. Maybe that's what he'd rather have."
civilcynic
Member
I have just finished reading all the posts on pornography here and decided to wade in a bit. I think it is a complex issue because there are so many variables to consider:
---What is pornographic to one person may not necessarily be pornographic to another. For instance, some might consider a pic of full nudity as porn while others may say it depends what pose or action is revealed in the picture/film. What about literature? Some consider Lady Chatterly's Lover by DH Lawrence as pornographic while others limit their definition to Hustler magazine.
---Culture is a factor in judging what is pornography. Culturally, Americans are much more 'prudish' (for lack of a better word) than Europeans so again what is pornographic here may not be over in Europe.
---Biology is also a factor. Men and women are 'hard-wired' differently. Men are much more attracted to the visual than women. Men find looking at a female body much more sexually stimulating than a woman looking at a male body (I am speaking in general terms). Ask a man about his sexual fantasy and you would be likely to get something along the lines of a beautiful naked lady ready and willing to have sex with him....A woman, on the other hand, will usually describe a fantasy involving a special environment and romance.....simply seeing a naked man standing in their bedroom is not going to "put them in the mood'.
Is pornography wrong and/or is it harmful? Again it depends as what is defined as pornography, who is viewing it and how it is being used. I personally believe that pornography like prostitution will exist as long as humans exist.
---What is pornographic to one person may not necessarily be pornographic to another. For instance, some might consider a pic of full nudity as porn while others may say it depends what pose or action is revealed in the picture/film. What about literature? Some consider Lady Chatterly's Lover by DH Lawrence as pornographic while others limit their definition to Hustler magazine.
---Culture is a factor in judging what is pornography. Culturally, Americans are much more 'prudish' (for lack of a better word) than Europeans so again what is pornographic here may not be over in Europe.
---Biology is also a factor. Men and women are 'hard-wired' differently. Men are much more attracted to the visual than women. Men find looking at a female body much more sexually stimulating than a woman looking at a male body (I am speaking in general terms). Ask a man about his sexual fantasy and you would be likely to get something along the lines of a beautiful naked lady ready and willing to have sex with him....A woman, on the other hand, will usually describe a fantasy involving a special environment and romance.....simply seeing a naked man standing in their bedroom is not going to "put them in the mood'.
Is pornography wrong and/or is it harmful? Again it depends as what is defined as pornography, who is viewing it and how it is being used. I personally believe that pornography like prostitution will exist as long as humans exist.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
johnnys4life- it sounds like you may find help in a marrage councelor. I personally don't find the use of occasional porn harmful to my relationship, but then that is MY relationship and my fiance and I have diffrent views on Pornography than obviously you do.
To me it comes down to personal responcibility... If my fiance chose only to view porn and ignore my needs (or vice versa) than I would say that is a problem. However I would also wonder if there wasn't something deeper going on in my relationship that needed to be addressed.
If it is causeing you as much distress as it sounds like then I hope that you seek the advice of a professional before it becomes so much of a problem that it does end up tearing appart your marrage.
Best wishes to you
wa:do
To me it comes down to personal responcibility... If my fiance chose only to view porn and ignore my needs (or vice versa) than I would say that is a problem. However I would also wonder if there wasn't something deeper going on in my relationship that needed to be addressed.
If it is causeing you as much distress as it sounds like then I hope that you seek the advice of a professional before it becomes so much of a problem that it does end up tearing appart your marrage.
Best wishes to you
wa:do
Lightkeeper
Well-Known Member
Thank you for your honesty. I think a lot of women feel like you do about pornography and I don't think there is anything wrong with you. If your husband knows this hurts you then he is very WRONG in continuing on with something he knows hurts you. His relationship with you should be his first priority. Wanting your happiness should be his first priority. If he can't stop, knowing that it hurts you, then I think he has a problem.johnnys4life said:
johnnys4life
Pro-life Mommy
Thank you for your advice, but despite how it sounds we really do have a very happy marriage. This is something that doesn't come up more than once every few months. I don't really think he has a serious problem, I think he is just oversexed and doesn't see how much I disagree with this habit. In his defence, part of it was because there were a few times when I was pregnant and just afterwards when we weren't doing it at all. So I don't mean to say that he isn't a great husband or that our marriage isn't fun or anything like that.painted wolf said:
johnnys4life
Pro-life Mommy
But on the other hand, yes it does hurt me that I've told him I think it's wrong and he doesn't seem to care.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
I'm glad that on the whole your marrage is a happy one 
I'm just concerned because little things, if not taken care of, can become larger problems later on and if he isn't recognizing that this is a problem for you than you may want some advice on how to address that.
And yes, I have found that many men are (at lest in comparison to most women) oversexed...
wa:do
I'm just concerned because little things, if not taken care of, can become larger problems later on and if he isn't recognizing that this is a problem for you than you may want some advice on how to address that.
And yes, I have found that many men are (at lest in comparison to most women) oversexed...
wa:do