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Pornography

Lightkeeper

Well-Known Member
I heard a psychologist on the radio say the other day that men who regularly view pornography cannot have a normal intimate relationship with their wife. Do you agree with this? Do you think daily visits to internet porn sights is wrong. What do you think of Playboy Magazine? Are people who use porn cheating on their spouses?
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
I think people who need porngraphy on a daily basis have deeper issues than just the use of porngraphy. Porngraphy itself is not wrong, but it can lead to behaviors that are undesirable. As for people cheating on spouses by veiwing porn, I would leave that judgement up to the other spouse. If they feel cheated by their partner using porn, then it is cheating, if they are not bothered by it, and even condone it, then it is not. However, I stand by my statement that anyone who needs porn on a regular basis, has more troubling issues than just the porngraphy itself.
 

bob

New Member
It is somewhat of an addiction. The more a taken man looks at it, the more separated he becomes from life.

But someone my age-- not yet too much of a difference.

I'm so contradictory.
 

(Q)

Active Member
Some consider pornography art.

Is there some moral distinction between a man looking at a picture of a naked woman on the internet and a woman looking at the statue of David in a museum, for example?
 

trishtrish10

Active Member
if it induces lust, it is pornographic, which may differ from individual to individual. nudity can be beautiful or rude.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
both I and my fiance look at 'pornography' and it hasn't made a negitive impact on our relationship. I don't think of it as him cheeting on me. Sometimes a boob is just a boob.

besides sometimes one of us isn't in the mood and rather than bother/annoy the other we take care of things ourselves. Porn is simply a handy way of doing that.

Plus thier is the MST3K factor (porn is easy to make fun of) and the 'holy hell I cant believe they just did that!' factor.

wa:do
 

Zero Faith

Member
Pornography is taken far too seriously by our society; lust has been demonized into something to feel shameful over. It's been transformed into love's dirty, evil twin.

The fact of the matter is that orgasms and masturbation are fun, not too time consuming, inexpensive sources of fleeting entertainment that, contrary to religious pundits everywhere, do not lead to crushing emotional disorders. Pornography is just a means to an end.

Ask yourself why pornography is worse than any other form of mass media. What about our society makes it so dirty and wrong? That's what needs to be 'fixed' about our society -- we don't need crackpot psychologists espousing theories that viewing pornography cripples your capacity for intimacy.

Yes, of course, there are ways that pornography can be taken to extremes -- people can addict themselves to it, just as they can addict themselves to gambling, television, or internet debate forums. People can be objectified and exploited, just like they are on reality television.

As for people cheating on spouses by veiwing porn, I would leave that judgement up to the other spouse. If they feel cheated by their partner using porn, then it is cheating, if they are not bothered by it, and even condone it, then it is not.

I disagree. I think that 'cheating' should be defined by both partners in an intimate relationship; viewing pornography is certainly not considered cheating in secular society or legal circles. I, for one, would laugh at my partner if he told me looking at porn was like cheating on him. I'd regret it later, but my first reaction would be to chuckle and ask him if he was being serious :p
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
Hello all!

2354 Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.

I would ask those of you who do view porn and are in a relationship what about your partner does not satisfy you?

One of the reasons I married my wife is because I found her physically attractive.... I don't understand why looking at a picture of ANOTHER woman/man in a sexual nature should exite me.........???????????

Oh well....... I guess I will never understand.

painted wolf said:
Sometimes a boob is just a boob.
:D I love it!

Peace,
Scott
 

(Q)

Active Member
It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense.

With that line of reasoning, one could lobby against religion.


 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
(Q),

With that line of reasoning, one could lobby against religion.
Ahhhhhhh....... brilliant reply! Thanks for adding to the discussion............????

Peace,
Scott
 

(Q)

Active Member
Thanks for adding to the discussion

No need for thanks - it's my pleasure to expose hypocrisy wherever and whenever I can.
 

Rex

Founder
*IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO STAY ON TOPIC THEN DON'T POST*

I DON'T WANT TO START DELETING POSTS
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
Thanks Rex......... I am getting tired of all the "drive by" posts with no content, only jabs and attacks.

Back to the topic....... anyone care to respond to my previous questions?

Peace,
Scott
 

Lightkeeper

Well-Known Member
SOGFPP said:
Hello all!

2354 Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.

I would ask those of you who do view porn and are in a relationship what about your partner does not satisfy you?

One of the reasons I married my wife is because I found her physically attractive.... I don't understand why looking at a picture of ANOTHER woman/man in a sexual nature should exite me.........???????????

Oh well....... I guess I will never understand.


:D I love it!

Peace,
Scott
You made very good points. Pornography is degrading to the participants and the viewers. I know three men who regularly view porn on the internet and all three do not have a good intimate relationship with their wives. It takes courage to be initmate. It takes no courage to turn on the computer. They not only cheat their wives, they cheat themselves.
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
Lightkeeper,

Thanks for the kind words..... I have met some couples that use pornography as a "tool" to keep themselves faithfull: ........ the mutual viewing of porn lets them live out the fantasy of being with someone else without the pain of cheating or the risk of disease.

Although I have to be honest and admit that lust is an issue for myself as well as all of us, I agree with Maize in that there is something deeper missing from a relationship that needs porn to satisy needs.

Not using porn and focussing on your spouse and him/her ALONE is the only way to foster a love deeper than the primal urges that are satisfied by watching porn.

Peace,
Scott
 

Lightkeeper

Well-Known Member
....... the mutual viewing of porn lets them live out the fantasy of being with someone else without the pain of cheating or the risk of disease.

I know someone whose spouse regularly viewed porn and she definitely felt the pain of cheating. He was also the type who flirted and stared at waitresses. She is no longer in that relationship.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
I have to say that me and my fiance (we have been living together now for 8 years) have a healthy intimate relationship. Porn isn't ruining our relationship. Of cource we are both open and honest with one another and have no need to worry about the others fidelity.

nothing about my partner is lacking, I love him deeply and find him very sexy... however on nights when I'm in the mood and he has to get up for work early in the morning I'm considerate of his need for sleep and let him be. He doesn't live to provide me with what I want at my beck and call. Nor do I for him. We respect each other too much to make such demands.

Perhaps the question should be, what is it about the anti-porners that they are so uncomfortable with the idea of sex and sexuality?

I find it hard to be jellous of a computer screen ;)

wa:do
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
painted wolf said:
Perhaps the question should be, what is it about the anti-porners that they are so uncomfortable with the idea of sex and sexuality?
I am not uncomfortable at all with sex and sexuality..... I just don't feel the need to degrage other human beings in the process.

Just because I am in love with my wife and don't need to see other women on a computer screen makes me LESS comfortable about sex and sexuality........ hardly.

Try it sometime......... only have desire for your partner, not some unknown face/body parts on a screen and you will more clearly understand what true love is......... it aint porn my friend!

By the way, congratulations! "me and my fiance"....... when are you getting married?

Peace,
Scott
 
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