Pornography. What's wrong with it?

[Kilgore Trout]

Too many balls.

 

[E. Nato Difficile]

Lady, looking at the monitor constantly is not going to get this over with any quicker.

-Nato

 

[ninerbuff]

the purpose of sexual relations was for mankind to fulfill their God given mandate. The pleasure derived from sex was merely a side point...it wasnt what gave sex its meaning & value. Unfortunately, indulging in carnal pleasure makes one forget the true meaning of sex.

According to the bible. The average person knows that intercourse is basically for procreation. If sex is pleasurable then chances are procreation will be higher.

I'll give you a comparison. Food is vital for life. We need it to nourish our body and keep us healthy. A pleasant side point to food is that it tastes great. But the reality is that our bodies need the nutrients, not the flavors. If we were to merely extract the flavors from our food and only eat the flavors, then we would become very ill and eventually die.

That's a bad analogy. You are comparing the pleasure of sex to flavor of foods? You do realize that if sex isn't pleasurable that people wouldn't have it and that would make an impact on the species?
People that don't enjoy sex don't have it. I'll bet they don't have a significant other either. Wow. That's living life............

The pleasure of sex is special, but its not its purpose.

Clinical studies have shown that people that enjoy pleasurable sex have better relationships.
Lol, sounds like all a lady has to do is lay there, a male mount her, then it's done. It ain't special it's just sex.

 

[ninerbuff]

Hi there! Pornography is disgusting in God's eyes- Ephesians 5:3.

Then god shouldn't watch it.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I think we can do whatever pleasures us, including masturbation, as long as we do not get attached.

Pornography, though, can get one attached. I have never cared to search for it though, only if it comes to me

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Too many balls.

Well, it just depends on what kind you watch

 

[Skwim]

Hi there! Pornography is disgusting in God's eyes- Ephesians 5:3.

Ephesians 5:3


3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people.

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So where in the Bible is it stated that pornography is sexually immoral, impure, or amounts to greed?

It appears this disgust you speak of is your own, which you've projected onto god, because I haven't seen him say it disgusts him. In fact, for all you know he may be quite pleased with it. So let's not be making up things about god just because . . . .

 

[Madhuri]

I think we can do whatever pleasures us, including masturbation, as long as we do not get attached.

Pornography, though, can get one attached. I have never cared to search for it though, only if it comes to me

I agree. With all things, we need to be careful to sustain balance and also attempt to cause the least amount of suffering to others as possible.

I therefore do not see the harm in watching porn if the individual is able to remain detached (unaddicted, in other words) or that it does not have negative social or psychological consequences to him/herself.

I actually think that porn can be helpful. For some people, the personal relief may help them control their sexual behaviour in the social scene, which could include casual sex with multiple partners, that can lead to devastating consequences.

I don't believe that repression is a good thing. But I also believe that having self control is important. There are no hard and fast rules to how one should lead their life; context changes everything. So porn is, in my opinion, neither good nor bad. It is how we use it that makes it either positive or negative.

 

[TheKnight]

it promotes the indulgence in flesh rather then the sanctity of life

So does eating meat, but I don't see Christians making a big deal about that.

Besides, what does porn have to do with the sanctity of life?

 

[Flankerl]

Hm whats wrong with porn?

Porn needs more condoms. ASAP

 

[MissAlice]

What's wrong with porn?

Nothing. I'm just not into women who act like bimbos and men who like to slap women around and act overly aggressive.

 

[Skwim]

Nothing inherently. (Like anything else)

Depends on what it is being used for.

Primarily, enjoyment, which can range from mere amusement to a sexual aide.

Likely varies from individual to individual. But in general terms, when it is perceived to be an addiction or conceived of as gateway to objectifying people (particularly women), it moves into territory of being problematic.

As an addiction of course it could be unhealthy, just like any other addiction, be it bananas or bubble gum. As for objectifying people (particularly women), this is something everyone does when they appreciate someone for their looks. But like everything else, it can be harmful or harmless depending on how it's handled. So it's unfair to tag pornography as being problematic just because it's possible to misuse it. There are thousands upon thousands of thing that can become problematic if not handled properly.

I would just stress that I do not see anything inherently wrong with it, and feel it has many useful / good purposes, IMO.

Good for you.

Seems to me that Porn is nothing more than a scapegoat for weak willed individuals.

Much like when people start blaming the alcohol for their behavior/actions instead of accepting responsibility.

Are you saying that people blame porn for some kind of behavior they're ashamed of? Care to elaborate?

the purpose of sexual relations was for mankind to fulfill their God given mandate. The pleasure derived from sex was merely a side point...it wasnt what gave sex its meaning & value. Unfortunately, indulging in carnal pleasure makes one forget the true meaning of sex.

And why is this "meaning & value" so important that it must be remembered when engaging in sexual activity? Must one always be in some kind of reverential state of mind whenever they do something---considering that everything we do can be related to something god has created.

I'll give you a comparison. Food is vital for life. We need it to nourish our body and keep us healthy. A pleasant side point to food is that it tastes great. But the reality is that our bodies need the nutrients, not the flavors. If we were to merely extract the flavors from our food and only eat the flavors, then we would become very ill and eventually die.

Whaaat??? Sure you don't want to rethink this one?

The pleasure of sex is special, but its not its purpose.

So those unable to conceive children, either because they're infertile, sterile, or too old should not engage in sex?

What's wrong with porn?

Nothing. I'm just not into women who act like bimbos and men who like to slap women around and act overly aggressive.

Then try watching something other than S&M porno.

 

[McBell]

Are you saying that people blame porn for some kind of behavior they're ashamed of? Care to elaborate?

Why do some people want porn banned?
Because they think that banning porn will somehow make porn related issues magically disappear.

It is a classic example of treating the symptom instead of dealing with problem.

 

[Skwim]

Why do some people want porn banned?
Because they think that banning porn will somehow make porn related issues magically disappear.

It is a classic example of treating the symptom instead of dealing with problem.

Okay, I see what you're saying. Thanks.

 

[Sunstone]

Near as I can figure, a lot of men's porn is like women's romance stories. The women in men's porn largely exist only in the imaginations of naive men. And the men in women's porn largely exist only in the imaginations of naive women. I imagine men's porn supports and fuels unrealistic expectations of women to about the same extent that women's porn supports and fuels unrealistic expectations of men. Buyer beware!

Having said all that, I would no sooner ban men's porn than I would ban women's porn. Mainly because once you start banning porn, you sooner or later get around to banning political speech you disagree with on the grounds it is somehow pornographic. At least, that's what history shows.

When I first got on the net, I surfed about ten thousand porn sites in three months. But somewhere around porn site nine thousand or so, I began to suspect not many sites could compete with my memories of that time I got lucky with Terri.

Every now and then I still surf for porn, but reading the pornographic opinions of fundies on RF is usually more thrilling.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Every now and then I still surf for porn, but reading the pornographic opinions of fundies on RF is usually more thrilling.

More obscene too.

 

[kai]

My problem with porn is now its virtually accessible to anyone for free on the internet it persents a certain view of sex to young impressionable people etc . It has no emotional content , just mechanics, other than that i have no problem with it.

 

[Pegg]

And why is this "meaning & value" so important that it must be remembered when engaging in sexual activity? Must one always be in some kind of reverential state of mind whenever they do something---considering that everything we do can be related to something god has created.

its important because human life is involved.
Millions of abortions are testimony to what happens when people take sex lightly by viewing it only in terms of pleasure...they seem to forget that more then simple pleasure is involved... a lot more.

 

[Yeshe Dawa]

its important because human life is involved.
Millions of abortions are testimony to what happens when people take sex lightly by viewing it only in terms of pleasure...they seem to forget that more then simple pleasure is involved... a lot more.

Hi everyone!

It seems that the anti-porn side of the debate says that porn causes more sex, which causes abortions. The pro-porn side says that porn is for masturbation, which is an alternative to unsafe sex. I wonder if there are any studies that support either side?

Peace and blessings,
Yeshe
:flower2:

 

[ninerbuff]

its important because human life is involved.
Millions of abortions are testimony to what happens when people take sex lightly by viewing it only in terms of pleasure...they seem to forget that more then simple pleasure is involved... a lot more.

So by banning porn this will stop the problem? People will no longer think sex will be pleasurable?
We have many more FAT people in the US than abortions. I guarantee more will die from weight related issues. So shouldn't be interfere and stop and ban all processed and fast foods since they cause pleasure?