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Porn Pastor

DNB

Christian
Yes. Something that's actually fleshed and thought out and beyond trying to dismiss me as shallow and childish.
I can just as easily say Jehovah is the devil. Why? Look at all the people he's killed - that does include a lot of children. His laws permit slavery. They demand death for many things, and would force a woman to abort her pregnancy if it's suspected the father isn't her husband. He's so petty and insecure he demands people be killed for turning away from him and worshipping other gods. He's so self centered and narcissistic that he demands us worship him. He set up humans to fail, and punishes us all for the "sins" of Adam and Eve, despite the thing about a son not paying for the sins of the father. So Jehovah is also a liar at that.
Name one act of mercy, kindness grace, compassion or forgiveness that satan ever enacted? I can cite thousands that God did. You're extremely narrow minded and biased.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Name one act of mercy, kindness grace, compassion or forgiveness that satan ever enacted? I can cite thousands that God did. You're extremely narrow minded and biased.
He helped free us from the tyranny of Jehovah. That is far greater than anything Jehovah has done, who punishes all save for those who grovel before him. And he's so violent, sadistic, blood thirsty and dangerous he had his own son tortured to death. He also had the gall to dare command a parent to kill his child. And make it law to kill children for being rebellious or apostates. He is so barbarous that his will was even butcher the first born of Egypt. Jehovah is so wicked not even animals are safe from his unholy tantrums.
Satan doesn't want our worship. Rather than kneel he wants us to stand with him, strong and proud, free of tyranny and oppression.
Amd you want to call me narrow minded but you've barely even defended your positions while I have elaborated on mine, provided examples and answered questions. What I haven't done is resort to the petty tactics of name calling, dismissing your claims just because I don't agree, I haven't even said you are wrong.
 

DNB

Christian
He helped free us from the tyranny of Jehovah. That is far greater than anything Jehovah has done, who punishes all save for those who grovel before him. And he's so violent, sadistic, blood thirsty and dangerous he had his own son tortured to death. He also had the gall to dare command a parent to kill his child. And make it law to kill children for being rebellious or apostates. He is so barbarous that his will was even butcher the first born of Egypt. Jehovah is so wicked not even animals are safe from his unholy tantrums.
Satan doesn't want our worship. Rather than kneel he wants us to stand with him, strong and proud, free of tyranny and oppression.
Amd you want to call me narrow minded but you've barely even defended your positions while I have elaborated on mine, provided examples and answered questions. What I haven't done is resort to the petty tactics of name calling, dismissing your claims just because I don't agree, I haven't even said you are wrong.
You have an uncanny ability to avoid pointed questions. We are sinners and God offered us redemption simply by faith.
From where comes your petty complaint (outside of incompetent Biblical exegesis)?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
You have an uncanny ability to avoid pointed questions.
Except I haven't done this.
We are sinners
You, maybe. I am not.
God offered us redemption simply by faith.
I don't need or want saves from cruel system he needlessly made so he can claim he's merciful.
From where comes your petty complaint
You haven't been paying attention, have you?
outside of incompetent Biblical exegesis)?
I've been drawing from the Bible more than you have.
 

Fallen Prophet

Well-Known Member

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
But you are doing it all wrong:mad::mad::mad:
What's very interesting, according to my Old Me self I'm doing it wrong. But doing it wrong, and retaining that same understanding, I realize so much how it was wrong and really was missing the point. Mostly. Jesus did mention various things of eternal tortures and torments, but is rather vague about it all. Some could make the point there is no soul, and darkness and gnashing of teeth is regards to the totality of death itself, with a later promised resurrection. But there also references to the eternal roasting pit of Hell.
There is a lot of dogma also attached to it. If it was just the love and peace and mercy it wouldn't be bad. But there's a lot of baggage attached to that good.
 
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