Porn Exploits People

[InChrist]

How is that PornHub's fault if people upload illegal material to it? People do with that with video sites. It happens all the time with YouTube. Should YouTube be shut down?

They are at fault for having no system in place to verify the age or consent of those featured in the pornographic content they show and profit from. From what I have read they make it very easy for anyone to upload porn.

YouTube should also be held accountable.

 

[Mock Turtle]

How is that PornHub's fault if people upload illegal material to it? People do with that with video sites. It happens all the time with YouTube. Should YouTube be shut down?

Like many sites, perhaps any uploaded content should be moderated before it is displayed on the site. The issue is that usually it is too expensive and troublesome for such sites to do, and hence they choose the next best option.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Like many sites, perhaps any uploaded content should be moderated before it is displayed on the site. The issue is that usually it is too expensive and troublesome for such sites to do, and hence they choose the next best option.

So why single out the porn sites? This is a problem across the Internet.

I've seen animal torture videos and pictures on YouTube, LiveLeak and Facebook that are illegal in the US. These things are just a problem with the Internet in general. I don't know if you realize, but in America, it's totally legal to have sites that host graphic real murder, suicide, accident, war, etc. videos. Here, watching someone die in the most brutal ways is just a click away. I should know because I've seen it all and it was not illegal for me to watch such things. But everyone wants to complain about sex videos and fictional violence.

 

[Mock Turtle]

So why single out the porn sites? This is a problem across the Internet.

I've seen animal torture videos and pictures on YouTube, LiveLeak and Facebook that are illegal in the US. These things are just a problem with the Internet in general. I don't know if you realize, but in America, it's totally legal to have sites that host graphic real murder, suicide, accident, war, etc. videos. Here, watching someone die in the most brutal ways is just a click away. I should know because I've seen it all and it was not illegal for me to watch such things. But everyone wants to complain about sex videos and fictional violence.

Well I'll agree that why should we single out porn sites, when it's mainly about numbers as to whether such things are possible. Perhaps some should have thought of the consequences when setting up various platforms that can host material that can't effectively be policed - unless perhaps AI will manage such a task in future - presumably they have such in a limited fashion already. As to PornHub though, it still seems to be down to what someone perceives as being over 18 since I doubt actual verification of age is possible - given that many are just amateurs uploading whatever. And I would think the amount uploaded to this site is manageable, unlike many other sites.

 

[Milton Platt]

Thanks for your thoughts.
Just because everyone is exploited to one degree or another I don’t think makes it okay, do you? I am not so naive that I think pornography will be eliminated. But it is still worth bringing the issue to light, nevertheless. As people become aware, hopefully the demand will decrease.

You are correct, it does not make all types of exploitation correct. We can agree on that. I have been trying only to point out two things. First, exploitation is not necessarily bad, (it gets used as a trigger word) and second, prostitution is not necessarily bad. Yes, I agree that either can be bad. If we ban everything that has a potential to be bad, then we must ban almost everything.
I was attempting to point out that banning such things such as prostitution or pornography does not make them go away. It forces them underground where exploitation is rampant.

 

[InChrist]

You are correct, it does not make all types of exploitation correct. We can agree on that. I have been trying only to point out two things. First, exploitation is not necessarily bad, (it gets used as a trigger word) and second, prostitution is not necessarily bad. Yes, I agree that either can be bad. If we ban everything that has a potential to be bad, then we must ban almost everything.
I was attempting to point out that banning such things such as prostitution or pornography does not make them go away. It forces them underground where exploitation is rampant.

I’m not necessarily advocating banning, more like exposing the situation and increasing awareness of what is taking place...


A Survivor of Teen Porn Trafficking Speaks Out on Pornhub - Exodus Cry

 

[InChrist]

A good read on the subject, at least I think so...

Orlando Bloom: Porn is "just so destructive."

 

[Riders]

I think we need way more sex therapists licensed to deal with porn and sex addiction. I also think we need more rehabilitation centers who take sex addicts,

 

[Skwim]

A good read on the subject, at least I think so...

Orlando Bloom: Porn is "just so destructive."

Why should anyone pay any attention to an also-ran actor? May as well let my brother's mindless ex-wife have a say.

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[InChrist]

Why should anyone pay any attention to an also-ran actor? May as well let my brother's mindless ex-wife have a say.

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It’s important because it’s a part of people speaking out, sharing the reality of the situation and educating others. Not that I think they are the best source, but many, many people esteem and listen to celebrities.

 

[Skwim]

It’s important because it’s a part of people speaking out, sharing the reality of the situation and educating others. Not that I think they are the best source, but many, many people esteem and listen to celebrities.

And you really find this justified? People acquire have some kind special insight into **** just because they become celebrities?

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[aeon6]

I think it’s time that people wake-up and realize or remember that porn is not healthy or harmless. It is not “good or nice”
Bodies are not commodities to be used, abused, brought and sold or viewed as merchandise for one’s selfish pleasure.
Those are some of my thoughts. Express yours if you like.
https://endsexualexploitation.org/a...-nice/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email
Pornhub and Free Porn Are Neither "Good" Nor "Nice" - National Center on Sexual Exploitation

Yes, the flesh-oriented consumers seek to satisfy their industry to bloated proportions. It's a hallmark of western sexual appetite, but not at all of prowess. For that to happen, you'd need IQ even if only rediscovered.

 

[oldbadger]

I think it’s time that people wake-up and realize or remember that porn is not healthy or harmless. It is not “good or nice”
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Are you telling us based upon your own experiences?

 

[InChrist]

Are you telling us based upon your own experiences?

Thankfully not, though except by the grace of God and maybe my own personal circumstances and age, I guess I could have learned the hard way by experience. I have never viewed porn online or elsewhere.
I have just researched the subject and know individuals who have been harmed by porn . A good friend whose career has been in social services has seen dramatic increase in troubled intimate relationships and sexual abuse of women and children over the years and this is undoubtedly connected to the huge increase of the availability of online porn.

 

[oldbadger]

Thankfully not, .................................................
I have just researched the subject ....................

OK....... how did you research this subject?

 

[InChrist]

OK....... how did you research this subject?

Mostly reading research papers by doctors or psychologists on the subject and talking to people who have experienced or dealt with the negative consequences.

 

[ChristineM]

OK....... how did you research this subject?

He has read stuff that confirmed his bias and agreed with it.

 

[oldbadger]

Mostly reading research papers by doctors or psychologists on the subject and talking to people who have experienced or dealt with the negative consequences.

Ah! That's the problem.
You only took notice of folks who reported 'negative consequences'.

And you then based your opinions on what we call 'hear-say' or in your case 'read-say'.

There's a big problem with some Christian Churches, in that they only support 'sex after marriage', which I'm guessing might be what you believe in. Is this correct? If so there's a massive problem with that.

 

[oldbadger]

He has read stuff that confirmed his bias and agreed with it.

Well..... yes....... it looks that way.
There's a massive problem imo with 'no sex before marriage' and 'no sex education' and 'no sexual exploration' and some religions fall head-long in to these kinds of troubles.

The couple that marries and discovers in the first hours, days, weeks that they are totally unsuited to each other sexually is a situation that can be avoided, but this happens all the time especially in marriages within the Abrahamic religions.

 

[ChristineM]

Well..... yes....... it looks that way.
There's a massive problem imo with 'no sex before marriage' and 'no sex education' and 'no sexual exploration' and some religions fall head-long in to these kinds of troubles.

The couple that marries and discovers in the first hours, days, weeks that they are totally unsuited to each other sexually is a situation that can be avoided, but this happens all the time especially in marriages within the Abrahamic religions.

Agreed, the high divorce rate among no sex before marriage couples is very telling of the problem