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Featured Poll: Are you enlightened?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Eddi, Nov 22, 2022.

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Are you enlightened?

Poll closed Tuesday at 10:59 AM.
  1. Yes, I am enlightened

    40.7%
  2. No, and I'm happy that way

    11.1%
  3. No, but I want to be and am working on it

    29.6%
  4. I'm not at all interested in becoming "enlightened"

    18.5%
  1. Heyo

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    ... and then you had an epiphany and now you are enlightened.

    Now that my gears have come into motion, I can play with some other words. In medieval iconography, people receiving an epiphany are depicted in a cone of light. They are illuminated. That's why bright people are sometimes referred to as luminaries. In simpler words they have seen the light.
     
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  2. cOLTER

    cOLTER Well-Known Member

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    Lil-bit! I know WWE isn't real!
     
  3. soulsurvivor

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    1. No
    2. This would mean many professors of theology or philosophy are enlightened which is not the case. That is not at all enlightenment
    3. Enlightenment is when you experience Unity with the Absolute, Ultimate Reality and also unity with the entire World and all its beings living as well as inanimate. When you are enlightened, you will experience and know that you are the Universe.
     
  4. Ella S.

    Ella S. Stoic Utilitarian

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    I think serenity might be necessary for the best application of logic. Otherwise, all of those reactive passions might cloud one's perception or lead to emotional reasoning.

    Socrates made a similar argument and the Cynics built upon it, eventually giving rise to the Stoics.
     
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  5. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    I think being enlightened is a process, not a finale.
     
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    How can I determine whether I'm enlightened or not?
     
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  7. rational experiences

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    I don't use status it's self Idolating or egotistical. A human pretending they are the God speaking for science as a God who created everything God human.

    To be reminded no man is God....you aren't attached to anything except once a baby umbilical cord the human.

    Theist a cloud inferred separated topic. Cloud attached to and with mass.

    Man theories it as a separated body.

    Hence teaching said man you are not attached to anything. Don't believe you are...as he caused mass above to fall out of attachment hurting all bodies...earth nature animals human.

    Vowed to never believe in separating by claiming non attachment himself. Control of my man's inability to honour love respect. Begins in my mind.

    As all god evils chosen by human men pretence I'm the God speaking.
     
  8. RestlessSoul

    RestlessSoul Well-Known Member

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    Becoming is actively being, in a dynamic universe.
     
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  9. idea

    idea Question Everything

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    I've had moments of feeling enlightened.

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  10. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle Hi, fellow primates AND overlords!
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    I voted for the third option (reluctantly) - given that my interpretation of enlightenment might not be what others think of this - and I see myself as somewhat enlightened, especially in comparison with so many others. Mine is more about understanding and knowledge that would tend to reflect reality more accurately rather than deviate from such - so perhaps closer to Buddhism. Such enlightenment will probably not include spirituality or anything as to religious beliefs so much, given that the various options as to such things mostly all don't satisfy any outlook on life that seems to me most probable - and they often do tend to clash most awfully. :oops:
     
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  11. SalixIncendium

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    From the perspective of one who is enlightened? Nothing. The term is meaningless.

    Enlightenment exists only from the perspective of transactional reality. From the perspective of the enlightened being, there is nothing to be enlightened to.
     
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  12. rational experiences

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    A Theist. A human self idolator says I act like a God.

    I look at bio life. I'm owner of all things a greedy rich man. I act as if I'm the greatest life of any human ever.

    I want a new resource to give my god a machine life. I'm the inventor of life he says....

    Looks at biology yes he says I can theory biology owns electricity. Enlightened I don't think mutual equal...yet I don't want to die. My life human says it wants to be human eternal....an image.

    I want a machine that did what the heavens did...from dusts I change it and it gains a bio cell.

    So he doesn't build a pressurised machine with water oxygen microbes to carbonise himself. To get an electrified hologram resource by his control man plus machine.

    He says burning light above is my heavenly enlightenment as God men theists.

    As natural humans spiritual are natural and not enlightened human egotists.
     
  13. Fool

    Fool ALL in all
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    But isn't enlightenment a spiritual attachment we are born into this world with? Vs a physical attachment? Something most considered mundane and almost worthless? Something to often taken for granted?

    Matthew 6:19-21

    Plato describes it as someone living metaphorically as in a cave before self-realization. Matthew and Isaiah describe it as living in a land of darkness and then seeing a great light. Linchi described it as nothing to it but with great fondness went back to huang-po. With love comes light. Let your love light shine before men.

    Aren't all enlightened but not all are aware of their inherent state?
     
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