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Political Rig Veda

Discussion in 'Asia-Pacific Politics' started by atanu, Nov 26, 2019.

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  1. atanu

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    Indian Express Ahmedabad epaper dated Tue, 26 Nov 19

    This refers to an article by Indian Union Law & Justice, Communications and Electronics & IT, entitled “Importance of Citizens’ duties” (Indian Express, November 26, 2019, linked above).

    To support his view that we have duties as envisaged by him and other political leaders of his colour, the Minister cites Rig Veda 10.191.2 as below:

    “O, citizens of Bharat! As our ancient saints and seers, leaders and preceptors have performed their duties righteously, similar, you shall not falter to execute your duties”.

    To me the opening and the whole translation seemed peculiarly political. Imagine Rig Vedic seers opening with a political speech "O., great citizens of USA ....". For the sake of brevity, Instead of the full Sanskrit verse 10.191 and its translation, I have reproduced below translation (Griffith) of the first two lines.

    Rig Veda 10-191

    1 THOU, mighty Agni, gatherest up all that is precious for thy friend. Bring us all treasures as thou art enkindled in libation's place
    2 Assemble, speak together: let your minds be all of one accord, As ancient Gods unanimous sit down to their appointed share.
    In the Rig Veda 10.191, I see no mention of “O, citizens of Bharata….,.”. Other readers may also verify. The full verse in Sanskrit and its translation (by Ralph Griffith) is shown below.

    Rig Veda Book 10.191
    सं-समिद युवसे वर्षन्नग्ने विश्वान्यर्य आ |
    इळस पदेसमिध्यसे स नो वसून्या भर ||
    सं गछध्वं सं वदध्वं सं वो मनांसि जानताम |
    देवा भागं यथा पूर्वे संजानाना उपासते ||
    समानो मन्त्रः समितिः समानी समानं मनः सह चित्तमेषाम |
    समानं मन्त्रमभि मण्त्रये वः समानेन वोहविषा जुहोमि ||
    समानी व आकूतिः समाना हर्दयानि वः |
    समानमस्तु वोमनो यथा वः सुसहासति ||

    saṃ-samid yuvase vṛṣannaghne viśvānyarya ā |
    iḷas padesamidhyase sa no vasūnyā bhara ||
    saṃ ghachadhvaṃ saṃ vadadhvaṃ saṃ vo manāṃsi jānatām |
    devā bhāghaṃ yathā pūrve saṃjānānā upāsate ||
    samāno mantraḥ samitiḥ samānī samānaṃ manaḥ saha cittameṣām |
    samānaṃ mantramabhi maṇtraye vaḥ samānena vohaviṣā juhomi ||
    samānī va ākūtiḥ samānā hṛdayāni vaḥ |
    samānamastu vomano yathā vaḥ susahāsati ||

    1-10-191
    1 THOU, mighty Agni, gatherest up all that is precious for thy friend. Bring us all treasures as thou art enkindled in libation's place
    2 Assemble, speak together: let your minds be all of one accord, As ancient Gods unanimous sit down to their appointed share.
    3 The place is common, common the assembly, common the mind, so be their thought united. A common purpose do I lay before you, and worship with your general oblation.
    4 One and the same be your resolve, and be your minds of one accord. United be the thoughts of all that all may happily agree.

    ...

    Such is the leadership in India. And they have such huge support that they have no qualms while misrepresenting sacred scripture.

    YMMV.​
     
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  2. Howard Is

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    The Rigged Veda ?
     
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    Thou speakest my mind on the matter.
     
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    This proves that politicians in India are as skillful in abusing and twisting Hindu scriptures to serve political ends as politicians in the West abuse Christian, Jewish and Muslim scriptures.
     
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  5. atanu

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    Yeah. That too is mAyA.

    Recently, a friend of mine was telling me how 'Crusade' had lost to 'Jihad' and only hope for the world was Hindu dharma. Although he was genuine, his version of Hinduism was Hindutva.

    What to do? Everyone has one’s own genuine and authentic opinion. But eventually all is mAyA. That is how, I suppose, the samsara wheel moves.:)
     
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