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Political Donations Dry Up for 147 Republicans Who Objected to Biden Win

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Wandering Monk, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Wandering Monk

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    Well, if nothing else get politicians' attention, money certainly does.

     
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  2. Nakosis

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    I spent the next few days thinking about what it means to be “canceled,” specifically how it’s causing people to live in shame and denial as a way of self-preservation — an effort to diminish their chances of being called out. And while I have my own views on white spiritual feminism, it appears to be too easy for most white women to disregard the suffering of people of color.

    We live in an era where we expect “wokeness” from our peers, the cultural expectation to be socially aware, particularly in what we speak up against. If you aren’t “woke,” you’re at risk of being “cancelled,” or experience a certain level of “woke bashing.” Cancel culture has infiltrated the very fabric of our society, so much so that some people, like the woman who came up to me in Santa Cruz, are afraid to learn, engage, and speak up. You can’t read the news or flip through a gossip magazine without reading about a celebrity losing a TV show or brand partnership deal (effectively being “cancelled”) as a result of problematic behavior.
    Cancel Culture: The Good, The Bad, & Its Impact on Social Change
     
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    You mean like how Trump tried to cancel Biden's win??
     
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    No, this is referring to successful cancel culture.
     
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    The wonderful thing about supporting nonprofits that do various charitable programs and political candidates with contributions is that if you change your mind about supporting them, no one is requiring you to continue supporting them.

    Clearly, something happened in their behavior that bothered contributors.

    Free market of ideas, clearly.
     
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    Democracy in action.
     
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    So in your world, politicians are entitled to donations? That seems to be the implication of what you're saying.
     
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    Near as I can make it, it's more realistic here to understand what's happening in terms of threatening the troublemakers, than it is to understand these events in terms of punishing them.

    Last I heard, the count is now up to about 38 large corporations who -- in response to investigative reporting begun by Judd Legum, who I recently began a thread about -- have in one way or another suspended donations to the 147 Republicans who voted to reject some Electoral College ballots.

    The corporations include Disney, Amazon, Walmart, Pfizer, and Oracle. Oracle might be the most significant in a way because both its Chairman and its CEO have been very generous donors to Trump for some years now. That comes on top of suspending donations to the 147.

    BUT everything needs to be seen in context. For one thing, this is the start of the campaign cycle. The low point for political donations. Politicians don't see much coming in during this period anyway.

    Second, the press releases of most of the 38 corporations are anything but straight-forward in terms of the actions they commit their companies to taking. Most weasel out of any firm commitment not to begin ramping up their donor activities around the start of the second quarter, when they would anyway.

    Third, in most cases, it would be reasonable to suspect that these suspensions are are at least equally motivated by a desire to curry favor with the Biden team -- and especially in hope of having some say or influence on who he appoints to positions key to the corporation's interests. That's the other carrot they are likely to be looking for besides public approval.

    Last, the stick in many of these cases seems to be that the employees of the corporations are forming large groups, then demanding the donations stop. Take Oracle. Five hundred of them jointly petitioned the board shortly before Oracle's announcement. Basically, they discretely raised the issue that some key employees might get fed up and quit, if something wasn't done.

    In my opinion, that last point is the most helpful. It's good to see rising public concern about corporate giving, but the public has a short attention span. I think the employees will have a longer one.
     
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    So large American corporations have been infiltrated and seized by Social Justice Warriors after all. Up until reading your post, I had flippantly dismissed the rumors coming out of the dungeons below Newmax headquarters as one of the more bizarre of the myriad fantasies the right cooks up each day. Jeebers! Things have changed in America! Anything happens now. Anything!
     
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    I'm saying cancel culture is showing its effectiveness. Has nothing to do with the politician. Has to do with companies worrying about the impact on their revenue.
     
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    Large corporations have realized the impact political associations can have on their bottom line.
     
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    Let's not lose sight of the twin realities that make it so easy for large corporations to bribe donate to politicians in what might possibly be an effort to influence their behavior in ways that do not always benefit large swaths of America's ever alert and wise citizenry. Both realities happen to have been created by our notably apolitical and always impartial Supreme Court.

    First the decision way back in the late 1800s that revealed the long hidden truth that corporations are -- in certain and more or less specific contexts -- 'persons' and thus are guaranteed in those contexts the same legal rights of other 'persons' -- that is, the persons who are capable of pumping blood to their brains, but who so seldom in the course of human history have ever done so.

    Second, the much more recent discovery that the Constitution was thoughtfully written in such a way as to prohibit putting much of a practical lid on the sum and total volume amount of money that persons of any sort or description can give to politicians. In concrete terms, the Supreme Court firmly and justly established that you, me, and everyone (including corporations) have an equal right to give $100,000 to anyone and everyone we want to. i.e. We're all Constitutionally equal to billionaires now in our practical ability to have a say in our own government!

    Thank the gods the saints have arrived at last!
     
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    Good! Now precisely how does that 'realization' translate into action?

    For instance, does it mean large corporations are ramping up their public relations campaigns in order to strengthen the public's perception of their brands as patriots wedded to democratic norms and principles? You know, "Capitalism invariably leads to democracy", and other news bound to shock the Chinese Government back to reality. That's always been a good slogan to promote in America, you know. Probably always will be, given America's popular media outlets. So is PR the route the corporations will take to deal with the impact of their political associations on their bottom lines?

    Please, Nakosis, say something I won't be likely to hear from Tucker Carlson someday.
     
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    I'll hazard a guess you didn't read the article.

    I've no idea what Tucker Carlson may or may not say. I've better things to do than watch network news.
     
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    Interestingly, the description on the YouTube page had this:

    This is a surprise, but hopefully, other PACs will follow suit and dissolve as well. That would curb a great deal of corruption.
     
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    Oh but I did. Only I don't just read things. I think them through and reach my own conclusions, too. Surely, you didn't just swallow the article whole?
     
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    I posted it to see what others thought about it. Do you see it as an effective way to bring about change?
     
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    It will be interesting if this principle ever gets applied consistently, because there's another right of all "persons" under US law that never gets discussed in this context:

    It's illegal to own a person as property.
     
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    Let's not forget that the story started with the fact that the My Pillow Guy's products have been dropped by some major retailers. I guess showing up at the White House after the riots with notes on declaring martial law after the riots has its costs too.

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