Pubs love regulation, despite cultivating an image otherwise.
Besides...if people understood us better, they'd be even more frightened.
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Political Compass Test
- Thread starter Left Coast
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Besides...if people understood us better, they'd be even more frightened.
I prefer to think of it as "anti-purple".Took it again. I'm obviously feeling more...red today,
Thought you were talking about public houses.
Augustus
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Because state corporatism is not a far right economic ideology.
Augustus
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Can't say I'm a big fan of the terms left/right as they are functionally pretty meaningless.
If I had to though, then I suppose it would have to be pure laissez-faire capitalism. Ayn Rand would be far-right economically.
It's a good bet that most stuff with 'state' in the description is going to be at least more Left.
A reference point to consider: among pets, dogs would be liberal, cats would be libertarian. I'm a dog person...
Goodness, I don't think we could be friends!
OK.A reference point to consider: among pets, dogs would be liberal, cats would be libertarian. I'm a dog person...
Rational Agnostic
Well-Known Member
The test is flawed. For instance, the very first statement "If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations" is written under the assumption that the interests of humanity and the interests of trans-national corporations are mutually exclusive. But there is no logical reason that this must necessarily be the case.
Similarly, the very next statement "I’d always support my country, whether it was right or wrong" is written under the assumption that there is always an absolute right and wrong in politics and that right or wrong are not subjective and relative to the positions and experiences of people in individual countries and regions.
I didn't read beyond this.
Why take such an obviously flawed test?
It seems like your response would simply be "Disagree" then. Perhaps even "Strongly Disagree."
It doesn't mention whether the rightness or wrongness is subjective or objective, so I suppose it's up to your interpretation.
You're certainly under no obligation. I have no idea if the test has been psychometrically validated, I mostly just think it's interesting and fun. Anecdotally most people who take it seem satisfied that the results accurately represent them.
I'm always looking for suggestions of other online tests that accurately map political ideology, though. Know of any?
wellwisher
Well-Known Member
One of the problems with this test and chart can be seen with some examples. President John F Kennedy, who was a Democrat, was considered a liberal in his day. However, he had many policies closer to what would be called Conservative Republican, today. He believed in a strong military and tax cuts to boost the economy. The Conservative Republicans of today, are more liberal than they were 60 years ago. One would be hard pressed to see much difference between Kennedy of 1960, and a Republican today.
Bill Clinton believed in welfare reform and had Conservative views, like today, that led to economic prosperity. Obama used to believe in border control. The Progressive media called this centrist when it benefited the party. Now these same positions are no longer called centrist by the left, but are now considered radial right. This test has been rigged by years of media deception and left wing propaganda. It assumes you bought into many of the current left wing assumptions, of what defines center, today. Center should not change in a subjective way over time.
When religion was more prominent in US culture, in the 1950's, being without religion, was considered radical left. Now religion is called radical right, by the left, instead a centrist majority. Conservatives tend to conserve, while Progressives tend to try new things, often to divide people, for their own political advantages. The flip flop, on border control, is an example of two faces dividing people, to gain an advantage b moving the central goal post.
Say the chart and test was rewritten based on the centrist standards of 1960 or 1860, we would all end up in a different position based on these centers. Even modern conservative would swing more to the left, due to the impact of left wing media and forced social changes.
I believe in solutions that work, over solutions which benefit an ideology in the short term; election to election. That is the common sense middle that does not change with time. Running government with huge deficits is not an optimized solution. This is needed due to a lot of bad policy and legal obligations, that have move the goal post, called the common sense center, toward the left.
Bill Clinton believed in welfare reform and had Conservative views, like today, that led to economic prosperity. Obama used to believe in border control. The Progressive media called this centrist when it benefited the party. Now these same positions are no longer called centrist by the left, but are now considered radial right. This test has been rigged by years of media deception and left wing propaganda. It assumes you bought into many of the current left wing assumptions, of what defines center, today. Center should not change in a subjective way over time.
When religion was more prominent in US culture, in the 1950's, being without religion, was considered radical left. Now religion is called radical right, by the left, instead a centrist majority. Conservatives tend to conserve, while Progressives tend to try new things, often to divide people, for their own political advantages. The flip flop, on border control, is an example of two faces dividing people, to gain an advantage b moving the central goal post.
Say the chart and test was rewritten based on the centrist standards of 1960 or 1860, we would all end up in a different position based on these centers. Even modern conservative would swing more to the left, due to the impact of left wing media and forced social changes.
I believe in solutions that work, over solutions which benefit an ideology in the short term; election to election. That is the common sense middle that does not change with time. Running government with huge deficits is not an optimized solution. This is needed due to a lot of bad policy and legal obligations, that have move the goal post, called the common sense center, toward the left.
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Out of curiosity, have your read "American Kingpin" by Nick Bilton, about Ross Ulrich who created the notorious "Silk Road" web site, a clandestine online drug bazaar hidden on the deep web? I did, a few months ago. Very interesting read, but the most fascinating thing is that Ulrich really and truly thought of himself as a true Libertarian, and that philosophy guided most of his choices.
I'm unfamiliar with him.
I wonder what a "true libertarian" is?
I don't have a prefix.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Personally, I'm very fond of national parks. And, of course, the "great outdoors" is pretty deeply ingrained into American culture. Uniquely American, perhaps even, in how we go about doing it and thinking about it.
AsianActivist
Member
Economic Left/Right: -2.97
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.13
Seems very US centric. For example I would answer differently if I was living in the US verses another country.
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.13
Seems very US centric. For example I would answer differently if I was living in the US verses another country.