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Police behavior

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Curious George, Dec 12, 2018.

  1. Curious George

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    Please watch the video and tell me if you think the police should have handled the situation differently.

     
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  2. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Yes, I support freedom. These pigs need to be locked up.
     
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    Should have removed her from the area before removing her son. Of course if they had removed her from the area, there'd be no need to remove her son.

    Should the mother have handled the situation differently?

    The officer were probably attempting to look out for the well-being of the child. Their method didn't work out so well.

    Probably not a good idea to commit criminal activity while holding a child in your arms.
     
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    What happened in the 15 minutes prior to this and why were the police called in the first place?
     
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  5. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    They ran out of chairs so she sat on the floor.
     
  6. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    The police should have offered her a chair rather than start grabbing her child from her.

    ...Bad policing.
     
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  7. It Aint Necessarily So

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    It's not clear to me why they were removing her baby from her arms. To handcuff her?

    Pigs? You're a lot younger than I am. I wasn't aware that that word was still being used for police. It's what they were called when I was a teen.

    Your avatar takes me back to my youth and the Nixon - Kent State years, when that term was popularized. Do you know where it comes from? I'm pretty sure it was because of gas masks:

    [​IMG]

    I don't think of the American police as pigs any more, but I don't trust them, either. However, since I don't live in the States any longer, I don't need to.

    I also distrust the local (Mexican) police, but in a different way. I'm not worried about them planting evidence on me or brutalizing me for not being sufficiently deferential as I would be in the States, but I would never call them or invite them into my home, and I hide my wallet if pulled over. They're paid too little, and will steal your possessions if you give them access to them.

    "Gonna scare you up and shoot you, 'cause Mr. Charlie told me so."
     
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  8. Saint Frankenstein

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    From Wikipedia:
    "Pig
    This derogatory term was frequently used during the 19th century, disappeared for a while, but reappeared during the 20th and 21st century. It became frequently used again during the 1960s and 1970s in the underground and anti-establishment culture. Now prevalent in many English-speaking countries.[32] It is also used in anti-authority punk, goth, metalhead, biker, mobster and hip-hop circles. Oz magazine showed a picture of a pig dressed as a policeman on a front cover[33] and the term inspired "pig cops" in the game Duke Nukem 3D."
     
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  9. YmirGF

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    I don't know what I am seeing in the video.

    If you are surrounded by cops, do what they demand. Do NOT resist. Leave that to your lawyer.
    Unless there is a clear and very good legal reason for resisting arrest. Just go with it.
     
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    Isn't it fascinating how it is perfectly OK to dehumanize this group of human beings simply because they are in law enforcement.
     
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    Exactly what the police should have determined before they went into bouncer mode.
     
  12. Saint Frankenstein

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    Some cops are pigs. Not all, of course.
     
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    Interesting question. Why do you think that matters?
    No, it did not. Which is why I would like ro discuss if and how the officers should have handled it differently.
    Does the activity committed relate to the force used?
     
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    I am not so sure the baby is capable of doing what is demanded.
     
  15. Landon Caeli

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    While that's true, and is good advice, her rights were violated when she was told she may not sit on the floor.
     
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    They're not being dehumanized, they're being disparaged. They're disparaged because they're so frequently heavy handed, imperious, impatient and violent.
     
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  17. Curious George

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    I am not completely sure. My understanding is that rhe woman chose to sit on the floor when there were no seats. I imagine she was asked to not sit where she chose and she refused to comply. Police were then called and I imagine she refused to comply with them as well. But I do not have the exact details. What set of facts would justify this behavior?
     
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    I think that some people do it as a coping mechanism.
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Living in California and being raised in the midwest and living in Arizona for a while, I can tell you that there are different policing methods.

    Here in California, police do not target low income areas, rather, they target high income areas -which is proper IMO, because it keeps the riffraff out. A d policing here is done with a light hand. For instance, there are hardly ever decoy traps like you find in other States where it's a 'hunt' to find the 'bad guy'.

    Profiling and preemptive policing is an epidemic in parts of the South, midwest and East unlike it is in California.
     
  20. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Probably wasn't even her kid. They should have just shot her...
     
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