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Please Do Explain How this News Undermines Anyone's Confidence in the Biden Administration?

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Sunstone, Mar 2, 2021.

  1. Sunstone

    Sunstone De Diablo Del Fora
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    I mean 'creditably' undermines someone's confidence. In the old-fashion sense of 'creditably' that was, prior to about 1980 and an officially Government approved 'New Morning' in America, still a sense of the word that was widely viewed as the most useful to anyone and everyone sense of 'creditably'.

    I mean, 'creditably' in the sense of any take on any reality that was in any way useful to anyone -- who was an honest, self-respecting, and more or less responsible person -- when they could use it for their life-long navigation across the stormy seas of reality to reach any goal in their lives they might actually want to reach.

    That sense of something being 'creditable'.




    Yeah, I know:

    'Socialism' as the kids call it these days, and who then still manage to somehow twist and spin something wrong about 'credibility'. Namely, this time they warp one of the ways of legitimately seeing any 'ideology' as some kind of directional, agenda-driven, or systematically biased take on the world. 'Creditable' has never been usually applied to any single ideological view of things in the sense of it being universally valuable to everyone.

    Go ahead, tell me what the kids are calling 'cranky old men' these days, if you must.

    At my age, any human, who is not in some real way a fool even by human standards of 'fool', saying anything to anyone is always said in the spirit of something like this, 'I don't care what even my mom would have thought about me for saying this, I'm just saying it because I want to say it, so...."

    Not even I can recall that I appreciated that about older adults of any sort or all sorts when I was a kid. Kid's never do appreciate that about older adults, mostly. And if they do, it comes across to them as someone necessarily and always and ever speaking the truth to them. Kids!

    I tell you, we humans are born as mutant variations of our own DNA, and then forced by some angry fate to need to grow up well enough like weeds twisting up through some crack in our social groups just in order to be our own true selves. On top of that, I just now see outside my cottage window, the damn neighbor's kids are playing in my yard's snow again!​

    How are your notion of the facts as reported in The New York Times article at the link to be spun through the lens of your notion of 'socialism' to be interpreted by me as your best effort to honestly 'splain how the facts ought to be seen by me as a reason or reasons for thinking Biden is screwing up the vaccine attack against the pandemic equal to or worse than Trump did?

    Did I get my effort to 'splain my question to you in a 'creditably' familiar current use of the word 'creditably'? I pride myself on my ability to slavishly strive to be seen as 'cool' enough to be 'relevant' to the kids these days as a 'socialist' source of honest opinion, you see. It's why I say anything that I say. Ain't ya ever noticed?

    Covid-19 Live Updates: Merck Will Help Manufacture Johnson & Johnson Vaccine



    EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

    About the Biden Administration's role in teaming up two rival manufacturers of drugs to ramp up the production of one of the vaccines in order to get more citizens vaccinated faster.


    KID'S SUMMARY

    Basically, in kid's language, Biden's strategic thinking is to introduce socialism into America by a means so sneaky and dangerous that socialism will at last and finally fly beneath even Tucker Carlson's rich kid's mystically powerful radar to detect socialism everywhere it really is socialism that he's looking at, and not just him and his wealthy family's preferred way to look at socialism, either. But Real Socialism! That's all let alone anything Tucker says about anything having to do with truth, by the way.

    Always doing my very best to ramp up my currently most civil and humanly decent manner of speaking out loud in an Age of Lies.

    Um... So as to inspire bipartisanship during a time when all political parties are merely a genre of art for expressing varying ideas about how to virtue-signal being decadent. Forgot to add that.​

    Jeebers, I'm not even a real socialist, yet I sure can mess up my thinking like I was one now and then. Or is it I'm a libertarian then? Maybe a Democrat? Hm.. got to think about which one of the ideologies is always the one that's messing me up when I commit to seeing the world solely and only through the box of it's lens...

    I guess even for me it must be true that self-awareness always hurts at times or it ain't self- awareness. Especially those times when you need to look at yourself to see who you really are, and to not look at your reflection that you see in other people when you want to see yourself as somehow better than them.




     
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    What in Hell are you rambling on about?
     
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  3. Sunstone

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    I'll take that as a significant and surprisingly fruitful answer. Thank you for your reaction.
     
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    OK. G'night, Uncle.:D
     
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    It's funny cause it's true. Panic, fear, paranoia are emotional trickery techniques used by RW newsmakers on a daily basis. It's constant. All day, every day.
    RW 'news' are essentially political attack ads. An echo chamber of people repeating the talking points over and over and over.
    Then the audience subconsciously comes to believing the false narrative.
     
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    Back to the OP, my guess is that you're guilty of what Bill Maher calls being a "classic liberal". You know, someone who believes in civil liberties and such old-fashioned nonsense.
     
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  7. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    OMG! And we let him into our Forum -- as a MOD? Horrors!
     
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  8. Sunstone

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    Truth. Familiar with it when perhaps not spoken as what you yourself see as 'truth'.

    You're a Christian. What do you think your Christ meant when he was trying to advise you to not jump to pouring new wine into old skins?




    Is Christ really relevant here? Or is this just another one of those times some group no longer sees things that it thinks of its members as more likely to see than outsiders?

    Once you get your hands on enough relevant neuroscience, you understand how, when, and why people do that. Some scientists today might even be able to talk about that behavior with you on the molecular level.



    I do not care whether or not you like my ideas any more than I care with whether a non-English speaking person does. You have no rapport with me. I have none with you.

    That kind of concern would be irreverent, wouldn't it? I do care though when I notice a pattern of reactions to my posts that looks to me like someone is trying simply to smear my posts. If I further notice that pattern in a way that might appear to me as more than a mere personal attack, but instead as consistent with an effort to mislead people about my ideas, that's the real start of my interest in that pattern and its author.

    To my way of thinking, that is some kind of moral equivalent of sabotage against innocent people.

    I am not obligated to explain why I see that, anymore than you are obligated to explain your take on that. I certainly do not need your take on my morals for me to decide them for myself anymore than I need more junk mail in my garage can. It is not any of my business what you think of any of this.

    I'm not saying there's any intentional patterns to you reactions, but if you want, this is your chance to explain to me whether and why you do or you do not see that pattern in your reactions yourself. Go for it, if you wish. At worse, you are just going to confirm something I already know. At best, you'll give me pause. This is not a demand. It's not even a request. It's just an opportunity for you. Nothing about it will give me concern should you merely ignore it.
     
  9. Sunstone

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    The Staff's 16+ years in waiting plan to turn RF into an international watchword for websites dedicated to '24/365 days of non-stop partying in the name of any religion'...

    Goes operational at midnight tonight.



    Too little, too late to halt it, human. Tomorrow sees the first dawn of your earth's latest Gotterdammerung.

    You humans never find out in time, do you?


    A significant and telling number of years before the curtain goes up on Gotterdammerunng, there is always to be found suddenly appearing somewhere in a forest on earth, a wooden Great Hall that the locals always soon enough come to know, and never know better than as "RF".

    And the staff and the locals are always and ever the same.
     
  10. Sunstone

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    Absolutely spot on. Except that is so typical of any party to party 'communication' or 'perception' these days. Somehow, everyone is seeing everyone else in the fun house mirrors of the Public Relations Industry.
     
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    The left does it too. Somewhat more traditionally or reasonably, but it's more of a 'Bud Lite' propaganda, rather than a change in breweries.

    Everyone uses the same core propaganda now -- The PR industry's Standard Industrial-grade Golden BS
     
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    #8
     
  13. tytlyf

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    Give me an example. I smell a huge false equivalency
     
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