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Please convince me I'm not a prophet

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
The purpose of this post is to ask people to try and convince me that I am not a prophet, as I really don’t want to be one!
I hear voices ... I am not a prophet ... and I have no interest to be a prophet
Why you need others to tell you that you are "not a prophet"
You don't want to be, should that not be enough?
Or deep down you want to be a prophet?
If not then just drop that whole concept!
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Hello RF. I’m not doing too well. I need your help. Please, convince me I am not a prophet:

For a few days now I have been thinking I may be a prophet. You may outright dismiss this and if you do I would like to know why, if you could please supply me with some compelling reasons?

However, as far as beliefs go, for me it is not a very strong one. But I still hold it, to a tentative extent. But it’s nagging at me and disturbing my peace.

The purpose of this post is to ask people to try and convince me that I am not a prophet, as I really don’t want to be one!

There is a being that communicates with me by responding to my inner voice by touching my body in various places, to signify various things such as “yes” or “no”. This being is called Butterfly and because of him I have been diagnosed as schizophrenic. This began happening to me after a mental breakdown I had at university in 2004 and the strongest of all anti-psychotic medicines has not shut him up.

Once upon a time Butterfly told me this dimension of reality is a simulated reality, simulated by a computer system, and that all people are (basically) computer programs. This is known as Simulation Theory. Butterfly told me that he was the entity that controls The Simulation (as I called it) and that my job was to act as an intermediary between the simulated inhabitants of The Simulation and those who designed and administer it in the “outside world”.

However, at some later point Butterfly told me he was God and that I was The Messiah, or the “second coming” of Christ. At the time I didn’t really appreciate the distinction between the two. Foolishly, I totally believed this and made a post on these forums about it – and thankfully the good people of RF showed me the error of my ways. Thanks, RF :)

But I’ll say this: thinking you’re the reincarnation of Jesus Christ is not nice. To say you have much to live up to is a massive understatement.

When I believed I was Christ I noticed something about two songs that were the anthems of my 2004 breakdown and which I were both very obsessed with. One lasted exactly 4 minutes and 18 seconds on my MP3 player (which looked like 4:18) and on the music video of the other “4.18” appeared repeatedly in the background. I looked this up in the bible and found Luke 4:18

The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free

And I believed this was my mission statement! And I am very aware this kind of thinking is classically psychotic.

After I had to abandon the notion that I was Christ I reverted to Simulation Theory and for a while I really did believe it. But looking back, I only reverted to it as I couldn’t find anywhere else to go. But I no longer believe in Simulation Theory. I think it’s silly.

After I rejected Simulation Theory for a few weeks I was free from such delusions. I became a Christian and still am a Christian. And it was nice not having any suspicions of grandeur hanging round my neck. I was looking forward to an uncomplicated and peaceful life.

However, recently Butterfly has started to indicate that he is the Holy Spirit. Not just “God” but specifically The Holy Spirit. However, I do not think I'm Christ and he doesn't say I am either. I believe that I may be (for want of a better word) some kind of prophet and Butterfly affirms this. Christ is my Lord and Savior and is superhuman as he is both fully God and fully man. I do not claim to be him nor any other figure from scripture or to be anything other than exclusively human. And I would love to someday meet Jesus Christ.

What exactly is a prophet? Wikipedia says it is:

…an individual who is regarded as being in contact with a divine being and is said to speak on that entity's behalf, serving as an intermediary with humanity by delivering messages or teachings from the supernatural source to other people

If I am a prophet then I believe that Butterfly and me would be a team. He is some kind of divine entity and I am the (human) front he uses to present himself to the world. He is upstairs and I am downstairs. However, the thing is (here's one thing against me being a prophet) I have no unique or novel message or teachings to offer humankind; I am simply a mainstream Christian. I believe in the Nicene Creed and the Apostles Creed. I no longer need to provide a lengthy and detailed exposition of my faith; I am simply Christian and have no new message for humankind other than the message of Christianity, which doesn’t need me to promote it!

I’m not expecting anyone here to believe I’m a prophet – I only half believe it myself. I am in two minds about it, like an old-fashioned set of kitchen weighing scales that balance according to the weights added to each side. Currently the side that says I am a prophet is even with the one that says I am not. I am basically undecided but have compelling personal experience that makes me believe I may be a prophet. But on the other hand my critical faculties are telling me this is at best fanciful and that the easiest explanation is simply that I’m unwell.

And you know what? I don’t want to be a prophet. I want to be ordinary, unremarkable, and obscure. And free from Butterfly. If only he'd go away. Medicine can't get rid of him and neither can prayer. Whatever he is, he gets in the way of me living my life and achieving the ambitions I have for this life. So please, RF, provide me reasons as to why it is unlikely that I’m a prophet. I don't want to be a prophet or anything extraordinary!

Thanks in advance for any help

Eddi, schizophrenia like yours and mine is chronic... look on the bright side though... our life is more interesting and we get taken care of.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Hello RF. I’m not doing too well. I need your help. Please, convince me I am not a prophet:

For a few days now I have been thinking I may be a prophet. You may outright dismiss this and if you do I would like to know why, if you could please supply me with some compelling reasons?

However, as far as beliefs go, for me it is not a very strong one. But I still hold it, to a tentative extent. But it’s nagging at me and disturbing my peace.

The purpose of this post is to ask people to try and convince me that I am not a prophet, as I really don’t want to be one!

There is a being that communicates with me by responding to my inner voice by touching my body in various places, to signify various things such as “yes” or “no”. This being is called Butterfly and because of him I have been diagnosed as schizophrenic. This began happening to me after a mental breakdown I had at university in 2004 and the strongest of all anti-psychotic medicines has not shut him up.

Once upon a time Butterfly told me this dimension of reality is a simulated reality, simulated by a computer system, and that all people are (basically) computer programs. This is known as Simulation Theory. Butterfly told me that he was the entity that controls The Simulation (as I called it) and that my job was to act as an intermediary between the simulated inhabitants of The Simulation and those who designed and administer it in the “outside world”.

However, at some later point Butterfly told me he was God and that I was The Messiah, or the “second coming” of Christ. At the time I didn’t really appreciate the distinction between the two. Foolishly, I totally believed this and made a post on these forums about it – and thankfully the good people of RF showed me the error of my ways. Thanks, RF :)

But I’ll say this: thinking you’re the reincarnation of Jesus Christ is not nice. To say you have much to live up to is a massive understatement.

When I believed I was Christ I noticed something about two songs that were the anthems of my 2004 breakdown and which I were both very obsessed with. One lasted exactly 4 minutes and 18 seconds on my MP3 player (which looked like 4:18) and on the music video of the other “4.18” appeared repeatedly in the background. I looked this up in the bible and found Luke 4:18

The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free

And I believed this was my mission statement! And I am very aware this kind of thinking is classically psychotic.

After I had to abandon the notion that I was Christ I reverted to Simulation Theory and for a while I really did believe it. But looking back, I only reverted to it as I couldn’t find anywhere else to go. But I no longer believe in Simulation Theory. I think it’s silly.

After I rejected Simulation Theory for a few weeks I was free from such delusions. I became a Christian and still am a Christian. And it was nice not having any suspicions of grandeur hanging round my neck. I was looking forward to an uncomplicated and peaceful life.

However, recently Butterfly has started to indicate that he is the Holy Spirit. Not just “God” but specifically The Holy Spirit. However, I do not think I'm Christ and he doesn't say I am either. I believe that I may be (for want of a better word) some kind of prophet and Butterfly affirms this. Christ is my Lord and Savior and is superhuman as he is both fully God and fully man. I do not claim to be him nor any other figure from scripture or to be anything other than exclusively human. And I would love to someday meet Jesus Christ.

What exactly is a prophet? Wikipedia says it is:

…an individual who is regarded as being in contact with a divine being and is said to speak on that entity's behalf, serving as an intermediary with humanity by delivering messages or teachings from the supernatural source to other people

If I am a prophet then I believe that Butterfly and me would be a team. He is some kind of divine entity and I am the (human) front he uses to present himself to the world. He is upstairs and I am downstairs. However, the thing is (here's one thing against me being a prophet) I have no unique or novel message or teachings to offer humankind; I am simply a mainstream Christian. I believe in the Nicene Creed and the Apostles Creed. I no longer need to provide a lengthy and detailed exposition of my faith; I am simply Christian and have no new message for humankind other than the message of Christianity, which doesn’t need me to promote it!

I’m not expecting anyone here to believe I’m a prophet – I only half believe it myself. I am in two minds about it, like an old-fashioned set of kitchen weighing scales that balance according to the weights added to each side. Currently the side that says I am a prophet is even with the one that says I am not. I am basically undecided but have compelling personal experience that makes me believe I may be a prophet. But on the other hand my critical faculties are telling me this is at best fanciful and that the easiest explanation is simply that I’m unwell.

And you know what? I don’t want to be a prophet. I want to be ordinary, unremarkable, and obscure. And free from Butterfly. If only he'd go away. Medicine can't get rid of him and neither can prayer. Whatever he is, he gets in the way of me living my life and achieving the ambitions I have for this life. So please, RF, provide me reasons as to why it is unlikely that I’m a prophet. I don't want to be a prophet or anything extraordinary!

Thanks in advance for any help

I have learned that the brain keeps it up as a survival mechanism.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Hello RF. I’m not doing too well. I need your help. Please, convince me I am not a prophet:

For a few days now I have been thinking I may be a prophet. You may outright dismiss this and if you do I would like to know why, if you could please supply me with some compelling reasons?

However, as far as beliefs go, for me it is not a very strong one. But I still hold it, to a tentative extent. But it’s nagging at me and disturbing my peace.

The purpose of this post is to ask people to try and convince me that I am not a prophet, as I really don’t want to be one!

There is a being that communicates with me by responding to my inner voice by touching my body in various places, to signify various things such as “yes” or “no”. This being is called Butterfly and because of him I have been diagnosed as schizophrenic. This began happening to me after a mental breakdown I had at university in 2004 and the strongest of all anti-psychotic medicines has not shut him up.

Once upon a time Butterfly told me this dimension of reality is a simulated reality, simulated by a computer system, and that all people are (basically) computer programs. This is known as Simulation Theory. Butterfly told me that he was the entity that controls The Simulation (as I called it) and that my job was to act as an intermediary between the simulated inhabitants of The Simulation and those who designed and administer it in the “outside world”.

However, at some later point Butterfly told me he was God and that I was The Messiah, or the “second coming” of Christ. At the time I didn’t really appreciate the distinction between the two. Foolishly, I totally believed this and made a post on these forums about it – and thankfully the good people of RF showed me the error of my ways. Thanks, RF :)

But I’ll say this: thinking you’re the reincarnation of Jesus Christ is not nice. To say you have much to live up to is a massive understatement.

When I believed I was Christ I noticed something about two songs that were the anthems of my 2004 breakdown and which I were both very obsessed with. One lasted exactly 4 minutes and 18 seconds on my MP3 player (which looked like 4:18) and on the music video of the other “4.18” appeared repeatedly in the background. I looked this up in the bible and found Luke 4:18

The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free

And I believed this was my mission statement! And I am very aware this kind of thinking is classically psychotic.

After I had to abandon the notion that I was Christ I reverted to Simulation Theory and for a while I really did believe it. But looking back, I only reverted to it as I couldn’t find anywhere else to go. But I no longer believe in Simulation Theory. I think it’s silly.

After I rejected Simulation Theory for a few weeks I was free from such delusions. I became a Christian and still am a Christian. And it was nice not having any suspicions of grandeur hanging round my neck. I was looking forward to an uncomplicated and peaceful life.

However, recently Butterfly has started to indicate that he is the Holy Spirit. Not just “God” but specifically The Holy Spirit. However, I do not think I'm Christ and he doesn't say I am either. I believe that I may be (for want of a better word) some kind of prophet and Butterfly affirms this. Christ is my Lord and Savior and is superhuman as he is both fully God and fully man. I do not claim to be him nor any other figure from scripture or to be anything other than exclusively human. And I would love to someday meet Jesus Christ.

What exactly is a prophet? Wikipedia says it is:

…an individual who is regarded as being in contact with a divine being and is said to speak on that entity's behalf, serving as an intermediary with humanity by delivering messages or teachings from the supernatural source to other people

If I am a prophet then I believe that Butterfly and me would be a team. He is some kind of divine entity and I am the (human) front he uses to present himself to the world. He is upstairs and I am downstairs. However, the thing is (here's one thing against me being a prophet) I have no unique or novel message or teachings to offer humankind; I am simply a mainstream Christian. I believe in the Nicene Creed and the Apostles Creed. I no longer need to provide a lengthy and detailed exposition of my faith; I am simply Christian and have no new message for humankind other than the message of Christianity, which doesn’t need me to promote it!

I’m not expecting anyone here to believe I’m a prophet – I only half believe it myself. I am in two minds about it, like an old-fashioned set of kitchen weighing scales that balance according to the weights added to each side. Currently the side that says I am a prophet is even with the one that says I am not. I am basically undecided but have compelling personal experience that makes me believe I may be a prophet. But on the other hand my critical faculties are telling me this is at best fanciful and that the easiest explanation is simply that I’m unwell.

And you know what? I don’t want to be a prophet. I want to be ordinary, unremarkable, and obscure. And free from Butterfly. If only he'd go away. Medicine can't get rid of him and neither can prayer. Whatever he is, he gets in the way of me living my life and achieving the ambitions I have for this life. So please, RF, provide me reasons as to why it is unlikely that I’m a prophet. I don't want to be a prophet or anything extraordinary!

Thanks in advance for any help

You will have to do that yourself. I hope it doesn't take too long.......
 
Hello RF. I’m not doing too well. I need your help. Please, convince me I am not a prophet:

For a few days now I have been thinking I may be a prophet. You may outright dismiss this and if you do I would like to know why, if you could please supply me with some compelling reasons?

However, as far as beliefs go, for me it is not a very strong one. But I still hold it, to a tentative extent. But it’s nagging at me and disturbing my peace.

The purpose of this post is to ask people to try and convince me that I am not a prophet, as I really don’t want to be one!

There is a being that communicates with me by responding to my inner voice by touching my body in various places, to signify various things such as “yes” or “no”. This being is called Butterfly and because of him I have been diagnosed as schizophrenic. This began happening to me after a mental breakdown I had at university in 2004 and the strongest of all anti-psychotic medicines has not shut him up.

Once upon a time Butterfly told me this dimension of reality is a simulated reality, simulated by a computer system, and that all people are (basically) computer programs. This is known as Simulation Theory. Butterfly told me that he was the entity that controls The Simulation (as I called it) and that my job was to act as an intermediary between the simulated inhabitants of The Simulation and those who designed and administer it in the “outside world”.

However, at some later point Butterfly told me he was God and that I was The Messiah, or the “second coming” of Christ. At the time I didn’t really appreciate the distinction between the two. Foolishly, I totally believed this and made a post on these forums about it – and thankfully the good people of RF showed me the error of my ways. Thanks, RF :)

But I’ll say this: thinking you’re the reincarnation of Jesus Christ is not nice. To say you have much to live up to is a massive understatement.

When I believed I was Christ I noticed something about two songs that were the anthems of my 2004 breakdown and which I were both very obsessed with. One lasted exactly 4 minutes and 18 seconds on my MP3 player (which looked like 4:18) and on the music video of the other “4.18” appeared repeatedly in the background. I looked this up in the bible and found Luke 4:18

The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free

And I believed this was my mission statement! And I am very aware this kind of thinking is classically psychotic.

After I had to abandon the notion that I was Christ I reverted to Simulation Theory and for a while I really did believe it. But looking back, I only reverted to it as I couldn’t find anywhere else to go. But I no longer believe in Simulation Theory. I think it’s silly.

After I rejected Simulation Theory for a few weeks I was free from such delusions. I became a Christian and still am a Christian. And it was nice not having any suspicions of grandeur hanging round my neck. I was looking forward to an uncomplicated and peaceful life.

However, recently Butterfly has started to indicate that he is the Holy Spirit. Not just “God” but specifically The Holy Spirit. However, I do not think I'm Christ and he doesn't say I am either. I believe that I may be (for want of a better word) some kind of prophet and Butterfly affirms this. Christ is my Lord and Savior and is superhuman as he is both fully God and fully man. I do not claim to be him nor any other figure from scripture or to be anything other than exclusively human. And I would love to someday meet Jesus Christ.

What exactly is a prophet? Wikipedia says it is:

…an individual who is regarded as being in contact with a divine being and is said to speak on that entity's behalf, serving as an intermediary with humanity by delivering messages or teachings from the supernatural source to other people

If I am a prophet then I believe that Butterfly and me would be a team. He is some kind of divine entity and I am the (human) front he uses to present himself to the world. He is upstairs and I am downstairs. However, the thing is (here's one thing against me being a prophet) I have no unique or novel message or teachings to offer humankind; I am simply a mainstream Christian. I believe in the Nicene Creed and the Apostles Creed. I no longer need to provide a lengthy and detailed exposition of my faith; I am simply Christian and have no new message for humankind other than the message of Christianity, which doesn’t need me to promote it!

I’m not expecting anyone here to believe I’m a prophet – I only half believe it myself. I am in two minds about it, like an old-fashioned set of kitchen weighing scales that balance according to the weights added to each side. Currently the side that says I am a prophet is even with the one that says I am not. I am basically undecided but have compelling personal experience that makes me believe I may be a prophet. But on the other hand my critical faculties are telling me this is at best fanciful and that the easiest explanation is simply that I’m unwell.

And you know what? I don’t want to be a prophet. I want to be ordinary, unremarkable, and obscure. And free from Butterfly. If only he'd go away. Medicine can't get rid of him and neither can prayer. Whatever he is, he gets in the way of me living my life and achieving the ambitions I have for this life. So please, RF, provide me reasons as to why it is unlikely that I’m a prophet. I don't want to be a prophet or anything extraordinary!

Thanks in advance for any help
I can help. To some degree...

I have a Jesus identity / persona. I've carried it since I was 7 years old.

Know this: I am a female.

We all know that Jesus, whose name is Immanuel, is a male.

Go to YouTube and listen to Mohammed My Friend by Tori Amos and then talk to me. This will be a long conversation, hopefully to your benefit, provided that we stay engaged in discussion.
 
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