Physics or Spirit?

[nPeace]

God hasn't got time to save kids from starving but he did have time to save 1 bloke from a flying car.

On that, there is a theory.

What if saving John allows him to do a work that is important now, for saving people for the future?
Whereas saving starving kids all over the world accomplishes only a few moments of hunger relief, before some greedy politition or BokoHaramies deprive those starving kids of food, and they die.?

Well at least they enjoyed food for a day or two, right. Or should God kill all the greedy people and BokoHarams - wiping them all off the face of the earth, while he is at saving the world of kids from poverty?

 

[John53]

On that, there is a theory.

What if saving John allows him to do a work that is important now, for saving people for the future?
Whereas saving starving kids all over the world accomplishes only a few moments of hunger relief, before some greedy politition or BokoHaramies deprive those starving kids of food, and they die.?

Well at least they enjoyed food for a day or two, right. Or should God kill all the greedy people and BokoHarams - wiping them all off the face of the earth, while he is at saving the world of kids from poverty?

Not very good at planning is he, it's almost like he doesn't exist.

 

[nPeace]

Perhaps I misread you. Why doesn't God save more people from car accidents? Why does she let so many die if she has the power to save them?

So God should run this world?
That's what would be required.

Actually, God has determined to destroy this world, not run it.
This is because most people - that is, the world, has chosen to live how they want, and don't care about God, or his righteousness.

So God has set up his own government, and his own king, to rule, not this world, but the world he is making - one in which righteousness is to dwell. 2 Peter 3:13

 

[nPeace]

Not very good at planning is he, it's almost like he doesn't exist.

Almost... but then, if that's what people want to believe, God says, so be it. 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

 

[Left Coast]

So God should run this world?
That's what would be required.

It doesn't require anyone to "run the world" to save innocent people from death. People save others from awful things every day, even without miracles. And God is capable of much more than that, is she not?

 

[nPeace]

It doesn't require anyone to "run the world" to save innocent people from death. People save others from awful things every day, even without miracles. And God is capable of much more than that, is she not?

You don't understand.
Would that not require saving all... including crooks?
Would that not require making every single thing right... like the source of these accidents?

Or are you asking God to be like a super hero, that is there to only save people when they are in trouble, but let the governments, and corrupt people, and the Mafia, and ... the list goes on... ruin the work he does?
Just a fixeruper, huh?

 

[John53]

Almost... but then, if that's what people want to believe, God says, so be it. 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

He's a real trickster. Maybe if he cut back on the practical jokes he'd have more time to be useful.

 

[Left Coast]

You don't understand.
Would that not require saving all... including crooks?
Would that not require making every single thing right... like the source of these accidents?

Or are you asking God to be like a super hero, that is there to only save people when they are in trouble, but let the governments, and corrupt people, and the Mafia, and ... the list goes on... ruin the work he does?
Just a fixeruper, huh?

God is capable of vastly more and knows vastly more than us, right? So surely she can figure out a way to save those who don't deserve to die horrific unnecessary deaths and also prevent her saving acts from being foiled while respecting human agency, right? Or is that too difficult of a task for her? After all, she invented the game, right? I mean, human individuals and groups do this stuff now, on small scales. Surely it's not too much for her.

 

[nPeace]

God is capable of vastly more and knows vastly more than us, right? So surely she can figure out a way to save those who don't deserve to die horrific unnecessary deaths and also prevent her saving acts from being foiled while respecting human agency, right? Or is that too difficult of a task for her? After all, she invented the game, right? I mean, human individuals and groups do this stuff now, on small scales. Surely it's not too much for her.

God is capable of vastly more and knows vastly more than us, right?
You said it.
So why not accept the way God is doing it?

 

[Left Coast]

God is capable of vastly more and knows vastly more than us, right?
You said it.
So why not accept the way God is doing it?

Because it's manifestly awful? And if she can't explain herself, her say so isn't worth a damn and she either doesn't know more than us or is callous to suffering.

In fact, the world as it is is indistinguishable from a world where she isn't there at all.

 

[nPeace]

Because it's manifestly awful? And if she can't explain herself, her say so isn't worth a damn and she either doesn't know more than us or is callous to suffering.

In fact, the world as it is is indistinguishable from a world where she isn't there at all.

Okay.

 

[idea]

Same reason God chose a select few for the saving of mankind.

Lol, this is what all the groups use - tell someone they are special, tell someone they are chosen, compliments are the best way to groom victims. It's what pedophiles use, and what priests use - telling followers they are chosen and special.

 

[idea]

For the saving of mankind...
In the case of Noah.... he was righteous to God.
In the case of Abraham, he too was righteous, and had faith.
In the case of Israel, the Messiah would come through the line of Judah.
In the case of the apostles, they listened to God's son, and put faith in him.
In the case of Saul, he was zealous, for God.
The list is long.

In the case of those anointed by God... faithfulness to God, loyalty, listening to God, through his word, zeal for God, and pure worship.

In the case of Israel, they were so devote and loyal, they killed Jesus...

Oh wait... just Judah was chosen to kill Jesus?

Yes, I suppose of all mankind, those were clearly the best people.

 

[nPeace]

Lol, this is what all the groups use - tell someone they are special, tell someone they are chosen, compliments are the best way to groom victims. It's what pedophiles use, and what priests use - telling followers they are chosen and special.

That's a good point.
So if a wicked spirit saves a person, there is a reason, as well.

 

[idea]

That's a good point.
So if a wicked spirit saves a person, there is a reason, as well.

There are no spirits. Just natural laws.

 

[nPeace]

In the case of Israel, they were so devote and loyal, they killed Jesus...

Oh wait... just Judah was chosen to kill Jesus?

Yes, I suppose of all mankind, those were clearly the best people.

Reading the Bible, we see how disobedient Israel was, but God did not wipe them out completely, because of the promise to Abraham, that the seed - Messiah - would come through Judah.
The axe was at the tree. They were cast off entirely, when they rejected the Messiah.

 

[idea]

Reading the Bible, we see how disobedient Israel was, but God did not wipe them out completely, because of the promise to Abraham, that the seed - Messiah - would come through Judah.
The axe was at the tree. They were cast off entirely, when they rejected the Messiah.

No culture/tribe/people are better than anyone else. No one is "chosen", no one is special. We're all just people, doing the best considering the environment we are in.

A being who is racist/sexist/biased unjust - not a story or being to worship. Jewish pride, white pride - what genealogy did you come from? Really? Blessed from your race? It's the definition of racism, all the beget/ family tree #$##

The Jewish people were not the only ones to dub themselves "chosen", It is a common military tactic - to use superstition and belief in magic to scare enemies. Convince a neighbor you are chosen by God, protected, that you can walk across hot coals, or float in the air - spread rumors, do a few magic tricks - the entire old testament is a military manual, it's just a war tactic to call yourself chosen - to claim your god is bigger etc.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

For 18 years John taught high school physics, and says it's not physics. I agree.
I've seen this played out before, but the end result does not appear to be consistent with physics.

Your thoughts, and why.

How is that not physics?
The pole literally acts like a ramp for the car.


This is a perfect example of a type 2 cognition error I was talking about in that other thread.

You want to believe.

Yes, it's an amazing coincidence. No laws of physics are being defied or violated here.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Luck? What's that?

What the guy in the white car has

The one in the black car has bad luck.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

It absolutely seems to be as explained several times and highlighted in the video.

And as far as i know there are no accident investigators on RF to give you an expert opinion

It doesn't take an expert to explain.

Pole acts as ramp.
Car goes flying.

Why would an "expert accident investigator" be required?