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Phily Boy Beaten To Death By Bullies At School

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Revoltingest, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Ignorant Atheist Capitalist Engineer Libertarian

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    Bullied Boy Dies in Hospital: Family | NBC 10 Philadelphia

    What fascinates me is that the 2 killers were suspended for 2 days for murder. This was exactly the same punishment imposed upon
    the kid who had a Pop Tart which a teacher said was shaped like a gun. Even though these things happened in different jurisdictions,
    it fits a larger pattern of inadequate attention given to real violence & carnage compared to over-reaction to insignificant offenses.
    Security theatrics drains resources which could be better used elsewhere.
     
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  2. freethinker44

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    I'm all for charging students with actual crimes. Most of the harmless bullying that happens in school would be a a criminal or civil offense in adult society. If I was walking down the street and someone stole my lunch money, they would go to jail. Or if someone tripped someone or pushed them against the wall, that's assault. Why the double standard for kids? We should be teaching them that their actions have real world consequences.
     
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  3. MysticSang'ha

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    The reasoning is because since they are still children, we have the opportunity to shape their behavior better than we do with adults, who are expected to have established moral and behavioral patterns.

    There is so much more that needs attention concerning the children that killed that boy. Simply horrible.
     
  4. freethinker44

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    But the fact is, is that this stuff is only acceptable in schools. Anywhere else and the police would have been called and real-world criminal charges could be filed on them, children or not. If some kids pick-pocket someone in a store, they are going to jail, if it happens to another kid in school, no punishment.
     
  5. Revoltingest

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    This is the attitude I saw when my kids were in public school.
    Student on student crimes were largely ignored.
     
  6. MysticSang'ha

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    Granted, I'm a proponent of JDC. I also think a child should be able to defend himself or herself if attacked without zero-tolerance policies punishing both parties equally.

    I agree that too often schools turn a blind eye toward bullying, but this has been going on for years and years. Zero-tolerance policies are an attempt. A ****-poor one, IMO.
     
  7. Assad91

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    I live in Philly. Weird, I never thought Darby to be part of Philly.
     
  8. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    What makes you think that they were "suspended for 2 days for murder"? The article suggests to me that they were suspended for 2 days for what happened initially (a concussion and a broken nose, according to the article), and then the boy's condition deteriorated unexpectedly. I certainly didn't see anything in the article to suggest that the matter is closed.
     
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  9. The Sum of Awe

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    This is just horrible. I really don't know how else to put it, no words to say it. I'm all for those kids getting charged with at least a month locked up.
     
  10. Le Neigeden d'antan

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    I wonder what the race of the perpetrators was. I'm guessing that may have something to do with it, being that this took place in Philadelphia.
     
  11. Assad91

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    And, what does that mean?
     
  12. Father Heathen

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    The problem is apathetic and incompetent schools and apathetic and incompetent parents, and I think both should be held accountable when little brats bully and abuse other children. It's very serious and can cause lasting psychological and emotional damage.
     
  13. Father Heathen

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    He's saying that the victim might've been targeted because of his race.
     
  14. Revoltingest

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    I don't know.
     
  15. dawny0826

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    Maybe I'm the only one, but, this raises some questions with me:

    He didn't die during the fight. He died two weeks later, after being placed in a medically-induced coma. We don't know, from the article as to whether or not Bailey walked away from this fight or not.

    We're assuming that the concussion was severe and resulted in seizures, but, the article doesn't evidence that.

    Bullying is unacceptable and parents and school officials alike should be partnering to ensure that kids can go to school for an education, without being bullied by little snot nosed jerks. I would think that the school should keep the bullies out of school until the investigation is over, for their safety.
     
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  16. The Sum of Awe

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    While reading that I assumed that there were two different fights :shrug:
     
  17. Assad91

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    Well duh. But I want to hear from him if this is surely what he is trying to say, and if so why.
     
  18. Le Neigeden d'antan

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    All I'm saying that given the demographics of Philadelphia, it's possible he was targeted for his race. It certainly would have been a consideration if a 12 year old black student was beaten up by a bunch of white kids, and in fact, it would be called far more than "bullying".

    In fact, Asian-Americans in Philadelphia have been subject to racially motivated attacks, already, so if Whites are also a relative minority, it's not impossible for the same to happen to them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXI0_TypHmI

    South Philadelphia High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  19. Revoltingest

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    Racial aspects to crime & bullying would be an interesting topic too, & deserves attention.
    But we just don't know the race of this kid's attackers.
     
  20. Father Heathen

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    There does tend to be a lot of double standards when it comes to society's and the media's attitude toward racism.
     
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