Perverse Sex.

[John D. Brey]

Why does everything you believe revolve around sex? Especially perverse sex?

How do you define "perverse sex"

Not wanting to put anything into anyone else's mouth (I mean we're talking about "perverse sex" here) . . . I'd simply say that so far as I'm concerned, all phallic-sex has an element of perversity, since it's a form of reproduction different than, and rejected concerning, the birth of the Jewish Savior.

. . . Here, I'd typically embark on quotations from Rabbi Hirsch demonizing phallic-sex as that form of reproduction that occurs at night, in the dark, from the dark passions of the flesh, the natural man, etc. etc. etc. . . But semenly no one here gives a hoot about what a dead Rabbi has to say, or what he thinks.

So we've to try to go deeper (so to say). We've got to try to touch a spot that ignites passion in some one, or two, about a topic that seemingly should give rise to passions in one and all.

. . . To cut to the chaste, in the words of Hillel (not saying he's chaste) what is non-phallic sex?


John

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I would define perverse sex as sex without a consenting adult human being, though the fetishists who like inanimate objects aren't violating living beings, so whatever, I guess. If your intended partner cannot legally consent ... no go. There's a reason we don't let non-humans, kids, certain disabled people, and comatose people full rights. I mean, they have them, but we're not going to see dogs running for congress or comatose people doing their taxes or anything.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

. . . To cut to the chaste, in the words of Hillel (not saying he's chaste) what is non-phallic sex?

Lesbian sex?

 

[columbus]

. . . To cut to the chaste, in the words of Hillel (not saying he's chaste) what is non-phallic sex?

It's called lezbo-action, generally. I think. Maybe Hillel has access to porn that would even scare me a bit.
Tom

 

[John D. Brey]

I would define perverse sex as sex without a consenting adult human being, though the fetishists who like inanimate objects aren't violating living beings, so whatever, I guess. If your intended partner cannot legally consent ... no go. There's a reason we don't let non-humans, kids, certain disabled people, and comatose people full rights. I mean, they have them, but we're not going to see dogs running for congress or comatose people doing their taxes or anything.

. . . I'm mostly, or I should say, completely, concerned only with God's laws, his design, and his intentions, so far as they relate to sex.



John

 

[John D. Brey]

Lesbian sex?

. . . From a scriptural vantage point, I don't consider lesbian sex biblical, legitimate, or even real sex. So it doesn't really enter into the discussion so far as I'm concerned.


John

 

[John D. Brey]

It's called lezbo-action, generally. I think. Maybe Hillel has access to porn that would even scare me a bit.
Tom

. . . The speed with which the name of this thread attracted your attention makes me think not.


John

 

[columbus]

. . . The speed with which the name of this thread attracted your attention makes me think not.


John

I'm a major f*g with internet access. It takes a lot to bother me. But what kind of "non-phallic" sex are we talking about here?
Tom

 

[John D. Brey]

I'm a major f*g with internet access. It takes a lot to bother me. But what kind of "non-phallic" sex are we talking about here?
Tom

. . . The biblical kind. . . Are you aware that non-phallic sex occurs in the bible?


John

 

[columbus]

. . . The biblical kind. . . Are you aware that non-phallic sex occurs in the bible?


John

I've read the Bible. I would have noticed references to sex that didn't involve male members, AKA phalluses. There aren't any.
So I asked you what you meant by the term.
Tom

 

[Sunstone]

. . . From a scriptural vantage point, I don't consider lesbian sex biblical, legitimate, or even real sex.

Do you mean Lesbian sex is not real because it's not mentioned in scripture? Or are there other reasons you think it's not real?

 

[John D. Brey]

I've read the Bible. I would have noticed references to sex that didn't involve male members, AKA phalluses. There aren't any.
So I asked you what you meant by the term.
Tom

. . . Was it red when you read it? In other words, did you cut into the lambskin orlah (barrier), defended though it is by the literal words? Or were you content to read, look, engage, from the safety of a vantage point that didn't require you to get dirty, or even bloody?


John

 

[John D. Brey]

Do you mean Lesbian sex is not real because it's not mentioned in scripture? Or are there other reasons you think it's not real?

. . . Actually, I think lesbianism is mentioned in the Bible. . . But it's considered lawless, which means it's not legitimate, or lawful, sex . . . as far as the Bible is concerned. ----- In this thread, the Bible's concern is mine.


John

 

[Aquitaine]

. . . I'm mostly, or I should say, completely, concerned only with God's laws, his design, and his intentions, so far as they relate to sex.



John

Enjoy your STIs then.

 

[John D. Brey]

Enjoy your STIs then.

. . . Yes. They are a very real danger. Nearly immune to almost any prophylactic. Lambskin only makes them worse.


John

 

[Sunstone]

Nearly immune to almost any prophylactic.

I certainly hope no sexually active person takes your view to heart as being well-informed, and thus refuses to use any prophylactics.

 

[Ingledsva]

. . . Actually, I think lesbianism is mentioned in the Bible. . . But it's considered lawless, which means it's not legitimate, or lawful, sex . . . as far as the Bible is concerned. ----- In this thread, the Bible's concern is mine.


John

No it isn't. Romans is talking about their unconventional choices to not be owned, nor spread their legs for their owners/husbands.

They chose to be Sacred Prostitutes, and or participate in the sex worship.

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[RRex]

Bestiality, for sure.

 

[John D. Brey]

No it isn't. Romans is talking about their unconventional choices to not be owned, nor spread their legs for their owners/husbands.

They chose to be Sacred Prostitutes, and or participate in the sex worship.

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I had Leviticus more in mind . . ..


John

 

[John D. Brey]

Bestiality for sure.

Is that an endorsement or are you responding to someone?


John