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Perfect Quran

InvestigateTruth

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I'm saying the Quran would go through physical tahreef.
So, you mean, had God named the 12 Imams in the Quran, then some would have altered its verses, removing the names of Imams from it?
But God has power over all things, and He could protect the Book against Tahreef, No? Why wouldn't He?
 

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So, you mean, had God named the 12 Imams in the Quran, then some would have altered its verses, removing the names of Imams from it?
But God has power over all things, and He could protect the Book against Tahreef, No? Why wouldn't He?
Because it destroys the paradigm he works with humans. It would have to interfere their free-will.
 

InvestigateTruth

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Because it destroys the paradigm he works with humans. It would have to interfere their free-will.
That makes sense to me.
So, you are not in the opinion that, Shia Imams were in the Quran, but those verses were removed from the Qur'an?
Some Shias believe the complete Quran that was revealed through Muhammad, is with the Qaim. What is with people now, is a portion of it. When the Qaim comes it will bring the complete Quran.
I mean, if that was the case, it seems, God had revealed the Imams in the Quran, but some human beings removed their names from it.
This idea is very similar to the idea that the Bible originally contained verses about Muhammad, but they were removed or altered.
I don't believe God allows such things happen to His own Book who had sent for guiding people.
 

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That makes sense to me.
So, you are not in the opinion that, Shia Imams were in the Quran, but those verses were removed from the Qur'an?
Some Shias believe the complete Quran that was revealed through Muhammad, is with the Qaim. What is with people now, is a portion of it. When the Qaim comes it will bring the complete Quran.
I mean, if that was the case, it seems, God had revealed the Imams in the Quran, but some human beings removed their names from it.
This idea is very similar to the idea that the Bible originally contained verses about Muhammad, but they were removed or altered.
I don't believe God allows such things happen to His own Book who had sent for guiding people.
I think you have reading comprehension issues.
 

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No, I don't. I read your reply. But there was a reason I asked you this question. Do you mind to answer?
The answer is obvious. Which is why I think you have reading comprehension issues.

I'm talking about why the Sunnah is needed. I'm saying if Quran was explicit in everything, it would face similar things other books were faced with, major change in text. If it faced tahreef still, that the design is superfluous and my argument would not make sense.

I don't know how you can ask this question, given my explanation.
 
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