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Discussion in 'Sexuality' started by Jonathan Bailey, Jul 19, 2019.

  1. Jonathan Bailey

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    make this orientation seem unsavory to some.

    1. promiscuity: it seems as there is more of this fooling around business/sexual looseness in same-sex relationships: perhaps gay marriage is a good thing to make more same-sex relationships committed and lifelong, it seems more moral and more loving to have long-term commitment in any orientation

    2. pedophilia: this is odd, girls still get molested by men more than do boys by men

    Molesting a child is heinous regardless of the child's sex or the sex of the offender.

    The thing with bisexuals and commitment: they will have to decide whether to choose one and only person of the same sex or opposite sex for life-long commitment. This makes things somewhat complicated since bisexuals like both types of genitals. Evidently, they get bored with just one of the two sexes all of the time. Some bisexuals favor one sex over the other to some degree: like trying to decide between rainbow sherbet and a banana split on a hot day.
     
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    Well I suspect promiscuity might have more to do with Christianity constantly condemning gay people for sexual relationships. If you’re already an “abomination” might as well go out and have some more fun.
    And whilst I’m sure no one would argue that molesting a child is a heinous act indeed, pedophilia is a seperate category altogether. It is a sexual paraphilia and pedophiles can either have an adult sexual orientation (gay or straight) or have just pedophilic attractions. Neither are necessarily linked to any adult sexual orientation though.
     
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    I've noticed something positive in the gay community. Whereas in the straight community, the men are often Dom protective providers, and the women Subs, in the gay community you have more of a choice. And I really think it works well.
     
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    The number of molestations is not as pertinent as the rate of incidence. The percentage of male homosexuals (U.S.) is 2% whereas the remainder of the male population is ~48%. Therefore, if the rate of incidence were equal, there should be 24 times the incidence of molestations of girls by males versus boys by males. But that is not the case. The rate of molestation by homosexual males is much higher than the rate of molestation by heterosexual males.
     
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    The promiscuous aspects of gay male culture are largely to do with it being underground due to oppression and bigotry. It was difficult for gay men to have long term relationships when homosexuality was illegal and despised. Some did, however. Another explanation for it is testosterone. 2xs the testosterone is 2xs the sex drive. Men in general tend to want more sex and with more partners than women in general, and when you remove women from the equation, well...

    I'm not sure what you're trying to say about bisexuals. I'm bi and perfectly capable of monogamy. I prefer monogamy, actually.
     
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    Source?
     
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    And neither is pertinent to the sexuality of gay men as a whole.
     
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    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...

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    I've been with my partner 26 years, faithful every single day of them. And happy to be so...by my own choice.
    Yes, always wrong.
    Weeellll! There's this one guy who seems to have been born with 2 working penises, and he happens to identify as bisexual. As I understand it, he's in a relationship with 2 people, one male and one female. I don't know whether he restricts one penis to each of them (girl on the left, boy on the right, you know). You can find him with Google quite easily.
     
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    I'm fairly certain it was a hoax with Photoshopped pictures. It looked fake as hell.
     
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    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...

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    Diphalia is real. Most often, it involves other deformities, but not always. The first case was reported by Wecker in Bologna, Italy in 1609, and since then, about one hundred cases have been reported until today. It occurs in about 1 in 5.5 million male births.
     
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    An awful lot of molestation s by boys are by men who identify as heterosexual, though.
     
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    Oh, I know it happens. But perfect copies of an organ where they look exactly alike and function perfectly? And it's originating on social media where the guy is trying to promote himself and sell a book? Sounds very dubious to me.
     
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    This is really based on the 70s and 80s when it was socially unacceptable. This pushes the people into "dark" areas of society.

    Part of this is power disparity. Men in general are physical superior to women when it comes to physical conflict. It is easy to for a man to use force to meet a goal then women. Women typically use authority but authority is not unique to woman.

    Molesting a child is heinous regardless of the child's sex or the sex of the offender.

    This isn't a big issue no more than a heterosexual committing to a partner.

    This is superficial attraction based commitments. If you commit to a relationship based on the superficial not the person the relationship will have problems. For example some wealth men with multiple wives and divorces. A lot of the newer wives are younger and more attractive compared to the first wife.

    This is an assumption. Someone can cheat based merely on loss of interest. Attraction based relationships are a good example. When beauty fades the eye wonders.

    This does not mean the commitment issue is solely due to this reason.
     
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    The gender of the victim plays no role in determining the orientation of the pedo. It's about control, not sex. Neither is rape.
     
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    Actually, non of that is true. First, family members are more likely to be the molesters than anyone else. Would this be one member of the good, upstanding heterosexual married couples?

    http://www.d2l.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Statistics_2_Perpetrators.pdf

    Not just that but girls are more often molested than boys. Yet, women seldom molest children. So, heterosexual men are most often the molesters.

    https://www.d2l.org/about/research/

    So, we most often have heterosexual men molesting little girls. That has nothing to do with homosexuality. That is just untrue.
     
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    Check my actual statistics I posted to Shaul.
     
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    Thank you, sister. I knew that but forgot to mention it.
     
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    I'm saying it might be harder to have a COMMITTED lifelong relationship in bisexuality than those other orientations in which a person is attracted to only one sex.

    Try to reason logically. A person who is bisexual is attracted to BOTH sexes, correct?

    A person can only be one sex, male, or the other sex, female, correct?

    That means in order to have a monogamous relationship, you are going to have to choose one lifelong partner, either a man or a woman, correct?

    You might choose a man (or a woman) for a committed relationship but the sight of attractive men (or women) might still disrupt that relationship.

    It is my understanding that bisexuals want relationships with both sexes to balance things out, sexual speaking. That will require having at least two partners, one man and one woman. One person can't be both male and female. Since bisexuality, by its very nature, involves twoness, there has to be at least two partners, one of each sex, to satisfy everything, so I would think.

    Think of the Y in the yellow brick road in The Wizard of Oz. Which way do you go when the scarecrow points both ways? So, I don't see how monogamy in bisexuality can possibly work out.

    When a bisexual person tries monogamy, do they tend to choose the same sex or the opposite sex more often for an attempt at a committed relationship? I would say with all this pressure to "be straight" (I should say heterosexual) , the bi person will more often choose the opposite sex to attempt a monogamous relationship. It seems that some men who are married to women have a secret male lover on the side. I've yet to hear of a man who is married to another man who has at least one woman on the side.
     
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    Bisexuality just means you're attracted to both sexes. It does not mean you want or require a lover of each sex, especially at the same time. It's no different from homosexuality or heterosexuality except that bisexuals have a larger potential pool of mates to choose from. So maybe I would have a boyfriend but it doesn't work out and so my next mate is a woman, for instance, but my next mate could also be another male. I'm open to both. That's all it means.
     
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    But do you marry a man or do you marry a woman until death do you both part? In the case of marriage prospects, it might get tougher. Bisexuality seems like it works better for those who are single, confirmed lifelong bachelors. There are probably some bisexuals who feel the urge to go with women sometimes and go with men other times. There are probably some that do in fact get bored with just one sex after a while. They need the variety of pensies and vaginas to be totally gratified.

    Yes, it's also true that some heterosexuals and homosexuals may also get bored with the same partner after so long. They still crave a penis or a vagina, depending upon their unisexual orientation, but a younger more attractive penis or a younger more attractive vagina.

    Here UNISEXUAL means being attracted to only one sex of two sexes but never both sexes.
     
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