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Pentagon warned the White House about Coronavirus- in 2017!

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Why does it seem almost inevitable that the Trump administration was caught off-guard despite the military's warnings? I am beginning to suspect the administration is not headed by a "very stable genius" after all.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
And we had Georgia's (republican) governor who just found out that not everyone who gets the disease has symptoms. He's shocked, I tell you, utterly and completely shocked, amazed and astonished.

Guess who he utterly and totally supports (and no doubt what his source for, I won't call it information, but rather opinion that he swallows whole).
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Exclusive: The Military Knew Years Ago That a Coronavirus Was Coming

“Despite President Trump’s repeated assertions that the Covid-19 epidemic was “unforeseen” and “came out of nowhere,” the Pentagon was well aware of not just the threat of a novel influenza, but even anticipated the consequent scarcity of ventilators, face masks, and hospital beds, according to a 2017 Pentagon plan obtained by The Nation”

It is quite amazing how detailed and accurate this report is.
It is not just the Pentagon, but the CDC, FEMA and all other public health and emergency response organizations have long recognized and worked toward preparation of novel virus epidemics.

It costs time and money to be prepared, something that elected officials are always reluctant to approve, because low-probability/high-consequence disasters are by definition unlikely to happen in any given year or administration or tenure in office. Best not to spend money if there isn't an immediate need...

And so we haven't, and the Administration ignored the warnings starting in January, despite CDC and other agency warnings to get ready...
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
It's airborne ..people

take some vitamins and try not to worry

as for politics.....
pick a topic
any topic
and the guy in charge has a handle on it?
ever?
 

MNoBody

Well-Known Member
since when is that news, the us knows about something bad before it happens and does nothing, isn't that uncle sam's MO?
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Exclusive: The Military Knew Years Ago That a Coronavirus Was Coming

“Despite President Trump’s repeated assertions that the Covid-19 epidemic was “unforeseen” and “came out of nowhere,” the Pentagon was well aware of not just the threat of a novel influenza, but even anticipated the consequent scarcity of ventilators, face masks, and hospital beds, according to a 2017 Pentagon plan obtained by The Nation”

It is quite amazing how detailed and accurate this report is.

Threat of a virus pandemic has been well known for a long long time. Yes, the Trump administration reduced the funding to the main health agencies reducing the ability to be prepared and respond, therefore erratic inconsistent crisis management ensued. Though previous administrations were not as proactive and prepared as they should be.

Part of the problem is the dangerous dependence of the USA on imports of medical equipment, medicines and too many other things, which makes us dependent like a colony. This has been a deteriorating situation for many years.
 

atanu

Member
Premium Member
Exclusive: The Military Knew Years Ago That a Coronavirus Was Coming

“Despite President Trump’s repeated assertions that the Covid-19 epidemic was “unforeseen” and “came out of nowhere,” the Pentagon was well aware of not just the threat of a novel influenza, but even anticipated the consequent scarcity of ventilators, face masks, and hospital beds, according to a 2017 Pentagon plan obtained by The Nation”

It is quite amazing how detailed and accurate this report is.

What does it then really mean? Is there a chance that the current Pandemic is a military experiment?
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
What does it then really mean? Is there a chance that the current Pandemic is a military experiment?
No, Don't be silly. Read it.

It means the Pentagon forecast that a novel respiratory disease was possible at some point, which would have consequences very like the ones we are now witnessing. They had the experience of SARS, MERS and the various new varieties of 'flu' that emerge each year to draw on, so this was not rocket science. What they did, though, was to follow through the consequences - and this led them to predict much of what we are seeing today.

The Obama administration, scared by the Ebola experience, set up a unit to deal with this sort of contingency. Trump disbanded it.
 
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atanu

Member
Premium Member
No, Don't be silly. Read it.


I have. First the report also mentions about degradation of combat readiness and second the annexes containing more details are classified.

My curiosity is about any possibility. It is certainly not silly.

...
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The Obama administration, scared by the Ebola experience, set up a unit to deal with this sort of contingency. Trump disbanded it.
We should note though that this measure would've been
inadequate to fully address what we're facing. Trump just
made our poor preparedness worse.

This is worth noting because some of our friends are going
nuts saying that Trump is the problem, & fully responsible
for failings to address the pandemic. Certainly, he is part
of the problem, but replacing him in November would at
best just reset governmental incompetence to pre-Trump
levels.
We should treat this as a 9/11 learning moment, & overhaul
proactive/preventive strategies. (Btw, let's hope it proceeds
with less security theater, & more efficacy.)
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I have. First the report also mentions about degradation of combat readiness and second the annexes containing more details are classified.

My curiosity is about any possibility. It is certainly not silly.

...

It is unbelievably silly based on the evidence.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
What does it then really mean? Is there a chance that the current Pandemic is a military experiment?
No, don’t look for convoluted conspiracy theories when the stupidly and selfishness of politicians provides a perfectly sufficient explanation.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Not to derail the thread, but there's an interesting bit of history involving predictions.
In the 1920s, General (Billy) Mitchell issued a detailed 324 page report predicting
the Japanese attack upon Pearl Harbor. Such antics led to his court martial.
Ref...
Billy Mitchell - Wikipedia
It seems that humans learn much more from mistakes than from theory.
(I know that well. Had to actually touch that electric fence.)
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
We should note though that this measure would've been
inadequate to fully address what we're facing. Trump just
made our poor preparedness worse.

This is worth noting because some of our friends are going
nuts saying that Trump is the problem, & fully responsible
for failings to address the pandemic. Certainly, he is part
of the problem, but replacing him in November would at
best just reset governmental incompetence to pre-Trump
levels.
We should treat this as a 9/11 learning moment, & overhaul
proactive/preventive strategies. (Btw, let's hope it proceeds
with less security theater, & more efficacy.)
Undeniably true.

However, having a president who makes things worse is not something that should escape comment.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I have. First the report also mentions about degradation of combat readiness and second the annexes containing more details are classified.

My curiosity is about any possibility. It is certainly not silly.

...
Yes, it is silly. There is zero in the article to support any notion that Covid-19 is a "military experiment". The article explains what was the basis of the study. So to ask if that is what the article "means" is - silly. Especially if you ask that question after reading it.

(As it happens, there is plenty of biological evidence that the virus is indeed of natural origin. We had a thread a few days ago in which there was a link to some research findings which covered this point.)
 
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