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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Jun 25, 2022.

  1. Fool

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    Without unconditional love, can there be any true peace?
     
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    What does unconditional love mean to you?
    What one might do out of love might be perceived as harmful to another.
    But many consider indifference unhealthy too.
     
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    Love is an action against suffering. It's job is to alleviate. Indifference is neglectful
     
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    When you help a poor junkie get his fix, you help him alleviate his suffering in a way.
    But at the same time, you also contribute to keeping such a person's life miserable.
     
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    I didn't advocate that.
     
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    I know.
    It's just that things are not so black and white imo when one starts thinking deeply about the OP and when you take the example I gave not just literally, but metaphorically.
     
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    No, life is grey/gray
     
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    To an extend I agree, yet, I see colours.
    I particularly like blue.
    Blue and red is nice too.
    But I'm glad I don't base too much of my happiness on everything being blue or blue and red.
    I don't think I'd appreciate it as much as I do now if everything was like that.
    I'd probably be unaware of what "red and blue" is if that was the case.
    I also never would've learned to appreciate the color green, which I like too.
    Or the shades such as black, white and grey, because when it's dark, colours don't matter much anymore.
     
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    Blue is the color of the spirit. Especially indigo
     
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    IMO, seek neither unconditional love nor true peace. Instead seek the stillness of mind.

     
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    That is only service to self but is a need in all and for all
     
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    Maybe that is your need, but I don't need your service.
     
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    I never offered you a service. I only responded to your response
     
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    Doesn't service to all include me? o_O
     
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    In my view, it can only happen with conditional love. We can't equate good and evil, that confuses people. Not to react to oppressors same way and equate them with the oppressed. Oppressed have to be helped and oppressors have to be stopped.

    It's not going to be an easy road, but we can't see Satanic forces same as God's forces, nor those who set aright the earth with those who cause havoc and mischief, nor seeing with the blind, nor those running away from light with those striving for guidance.

    I wish for peace between two sides, but Satan controls people, and won't relent when he has upper hand and controls discourse in societies.

    Part of this discourse is to talk about love but actions are otherwise. Like waving flag so long as sang "they say love is the answer but look how they cheat us".
     
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    I think that healthy love is conditional. The people who feel entitled to and demand unconditional love are usually abusive or the victims of abuse.

    From a subjective standpoint, I also find unconditional love meaningless. I would rather be loved because of the qualities that I like about myself than loved as a consolation prize for existing.
     
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