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Pe****ta Primacy, Palistinian Prophet, & why Jesus didn't speak Syriac

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by LegionOnomaMoi, Nov 11, 2012.

  1. godnotgod

    godnotgod Thou art That

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    Isn't it great to espouse a fake religion that makes you think you are in a position to condescend to others, because it set itself up as the one true faith, while suppressing/destroying all others, and while it's texts, as numerous as they are, (more is better, LOL) have been corrupted, deleted, manipulated, doctored, interpolated, fabricated and otherwise falsified to the point that what you have is Officially-sanctioned Swiss Cheese, 'verified' by a twisted history as authentic? Enjoy your Kock-On-Dunghill game while you can; just remember that water eventually erodes hard rock away. It's just a matter of time.
     
  2. Shermana

    Shermana Heretic

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    I still want to know if Essene.org promotes Torah obedience, because that would be the best surefire way to know if they actually are anything close to being "Essene".
     
  3. LegionOnomaMoi

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    Sure there is. Read into it what wasn't there and then draw it right back out.

    Please tell me this isn't a quote. I don't want to know what you have that brings all the boys to the yard.
     
  4. angellous_evangellous

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    I have no idea what you're talking about.
     
  5. godnotgod

    godnotgod Thou art That

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    The author seems to favor the Essenes at Mt. Carmel, who are mystics. The Torah would most likely have had secondary importance to the first-hand spiritual experience of the mystic.

    As spiritual head of the Nazorean sect, Yeshu would have had the privilege of interpreting Jewish law in ways he would have seen fit. After all, as he himself pointed out:
    'you search the scriptures for eternal life, but it is they which speak of me'.
     
  6. angellous_evangellous

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    [youtube]taFpAe7KnWI[/youtube]
    Gorilla Wiggling Tongue - YouTube
     
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    Just shoot me. Get it over with.

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    WILLIE

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  10. gnostic

    gnostic The Lost One

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    I don't understand who and why the Essenes were brought in the first place. Obviously I've lost track of the debate.

    What do the Essenes have to with the Christian Pe****ta primacy or whether Jesus spoke Syriac or Aramaic?
     
  11. angellous_evangellous

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    Kick the hornet's nest.hahah
     
  12. angellous_evangellous

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    It's a conspiracy theorist's pipe dream based on a fabrication.
     
  13. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    I'm a big fan of armagnac.
     
  14. angellous_evangellous

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    I am parson to the pistachio.
     
  15. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    Dang! And I thought you were clueless with a superior egoic head in the clouds.
     
  16. godnotgod

    godnotgod Thou art That

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    Like Aramaic, the Essenes are the originals, but the 900lb gorillas of Roman Xtianity and Greek primacy bullied their way in to take all the credit, almost squishing both Essenes and Aramaic into oblivion.

    It always happens that way.

    The Essenes of Qumran hid their scriptures from destructive Roman forces.

    Look no further than America, Manifest Destiny, and the genocide/near obliteration of the now-marginalized American Indian to see how this works.

    Jesus, the blue-eyed, blonde-haired Western deity is the fiction, the myth; you've got to realize Yeshu is not a Western man; he is Eastern, just as Aramaic is, just as the teachings that were infused into the Essene practices are Eastern, but which were overwritten with pagan doctrines from the mystery religions by Rome and Paul as a device for easy and mass conversion.

    The Essenes tell us that theirs was a 3-tiered teaching, with the inner mysteries known only to the more advanced members, and the outer ones designed for the initiates. It is these initiates who broke with the Essenes and who became the first Christians.

    Is it any wonder that modern, Western Xtianity pushed a superficial, Hollywood myth with mass appeal known as Jesus, drowning out the real teachings and the real man known as Yeshua?

    Westerners just love a good bedtime story.

    There, there, child.

    'Once upon a time, there was this......'

    "Here's some nice hot chocolate, and I'll leave the light on...."


    http://www.tombofjesus.com/index.php/en/researchers-authors/dr-fida-hassnain
     
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  17. angellous_evangellous

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    There's no such thing as Greek primacy. There was no resistance to translation - we have entire families of Coptic texts, for example.

    There is no record of Christian polemic against the Essenes or vice versa. If there were an interest - or if the Essenes existed at all on any kind of significant level - Christians would have attacked them openly. The "Gnostics" were a threat and Christian bishops did want them out, and later on squashed them with the force of Roman law. Not so with the Essenes.

    I think we're getting to a root problem. You're judging both early and late Christianity through the Western dark ages - forgetting that Christianity became a world religion with varied theologies and practices.

    Making stuff up isn't the same as understanding history. Imagination does not make it real.
     
  18. godnotgod

    godnotgod Thou art That

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    Essenes are Nazarenes. Paul and Rome were out to get the Nazarenes. Remember? 'sect of the Nazarenes'?

    No resistance? It's called 'forced Hellenization'.
     
  19. godnotgod

    godnotgod Thou art That

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    Right, due to Aramaic primacy, LOL.
     
  20. angellous_evangellous

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    [Here is an object lesson in how to make a useful post]

    It's not right unless you refer to Paul as "Triumph." And Rome as the "Insult comic dog."

    Together, they are Triumph the Insult Comic Dog, specializing in insulting the Essenes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF43P-FJrFo
     
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