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Paying the fair share

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by KenS, Mar 16, 2019.

  1. KenS

    KenS Well-Known Member

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    I always wonder...

    What is MY fair share?

    I hear so many people saying that those of greater capacity need to pay their fair share but I always wonder what their own fair share should be or if they use every loop-hole available (or earned income credit which isn't earned) to get out of paying their fair share and just simply want every one else to pay for what was their own fair share.

    thoughts?
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Next question?
     
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  3. KenS

    KenS Well-Known Member

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    THAT is exactly why I enjoy you so much :D
     
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  4. Audie

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    It is really impossible to calculate.

    Just one example- one oerson's income
    is from inherited securities. He doesnt work
    at all.

    Another is, oh, a rancher. Hardly anything
    harder, more risky financially and physically.

    If their income is equal, is it fair to tax them
    the same?
     
  5. Audie

    Audie Veteran Member

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    There is a poem about that.

    "Dont tax you, dont tax me
    Tax the man behind the tree.
     
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  7. joe1776

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    What is fair about a system that allows the highly intelligent and greedy to attain wealth well in excess of their needs?
     
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    It is our share of what is required to maintain the many social systems that enable us to prosper.
     
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  9. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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  10. Shadow Link

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    There has never been a problem with freedom. You choose to buy products and you choose to boycott products. If the problem is 'greed' then surly you have given yourself a motivation factor to be the better competitor.
     
  11. Shadow Link

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    What? The failed education system?
     
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    This isn't about freedom. It's about economics.

    A society is a cooperative endeavor. Having its citizens compete to live a decent life within it is classic stupidity. The good citizen born willing to cooperate but unable to compete to make a living has no motivation.
     
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  13. Shadow Link

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    Yes it is.
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  14. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Not banned yet.
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  15. joe1776

    joe1776 Well-Known Member

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    A society must be governed.

    And a government that makes the right decisions should have the power to implement those decisions.

    Comments like Ludwig's are thought to be brilliant but they are based on the premise that, since there never has been a government that wasn't corrupt, incompetent or both, there never will be.

    I think that's wrong. We're not there yet, but governments are slowly improving in their decision-making. A clean and efficient government decision-making model is likely down the road.
     
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  16. SalixIncendium

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    I wouldn't worry about it too much. You live in the US, so the government will figure that all out for you. :D
     
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  17. Shadow Link

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    "By the people and for the people" is not intended to prescribe "democratic socialism."

    I think you're wrong about not agreeing with Ludwig.

    The smaller the better!
     
  18. joe1776

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    Agreed. It merely prescribes what will work best for ALL citizens and not just those born highly intelligent and infected with greed.


    Ludwig is a peabrain.;) Governments should be only as big as they need to be.
     
  19. Shadow Link

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    That's what Big Government wants you to think.
     
  20. joe1776

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    You write of Big Government as though it's someone with a brain and a Machiavellian personality. Is that really how you think of it?

    I think of governments as decision-making processes. Some are better than others, but overall they perform poorly.
     
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