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Pay Attention When Russia Starts Broadcasting 'Swan Lake'

stvdv

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The American Deep State has been doing anything to push for WW3.
I remember someone send me a link a few years ago, about their plans to fight a war in Europe, is this what you mean in above quote?

They all knew we should have found a diplomatic solution back in early 2021
Yes, that was very clear. And I heard Putin say it quite a few times, many month before he invaded Ukraine. The West just did not listen
I know many narcissists, they have this habit also; just not listen to what I say, and don't take me serious
Exactly what Putin said the West did for many many years, now they reap the consequences
 
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sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
It's amazing how people can ignore a history of conquering bits of other countries occurring over many years to try to make it seem like Ukraine was anything more than the latest victim of Russian aggression.

It's amazing how people can ignore Russia poisoning those it disagrees with.

It's amazing how people can ignore suppression of freedom of all kinds.

Russia had a chance to be partners with the West as history proves and turned away from that cooperation into attempting to recreate the Soviet Union
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
It's amazing how many people ignore what he did say - give us what we want or we'll go to war.
 

Stevicus

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I remember someone send me a link a few years ago, about their plans to fight a war in Europe, is this what you mean in above quote?

The American Deep State is planning to fight a war in Europe? I've never heard of that.

I mean, I would admit that, hypothetically, if an American "deep state" existed, and they had some kind of cold-blooded, greedy, Machiavellian view of the world where there's no line they wouldn't cross, then...I could see where they might view it as a plan which could be advantageous to U.S. interests.

Still, however much intrigue and chicanery may be taking place in the inner circles of power in this country, they seem pretty ineffectual and impotent at the moment. If the deep state can be equated with organized crime, then from all indications, this country is currently being ruled by The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight. 60 years ago, we had the "Best and the Brightest," but now, their successors have been a true disappointment.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I remember someone send me a link a few years ago, about their plans to fight a war in Europe, is this what you mean in above quote?


Yes, that was very clear. And I heard Putin say it quite a few times, before month before he invaded Ukraine. The West just did not listen
I know many narcissists, they have this habit also; just not listen to what I say, and don't take me serious
Exactly what Putin said the West did for many many years, now they reap the consequences
I voted for this MEP in 2019. What do you think of her? Of her stance? (Eng subtitles)

 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
The American Deep State is planning to fight a war in Europe? I've never heard of that.

I mean, I would admit that, hypothetically, if an American "deep state" existed, and they had some kind of cold-blooded, greedy, Machiavellian view of the world where there's no line they wouldn't cross, then...I could see where they might view it as a plan which could be advantageous to U.S. interests.

Still, however much intrigue and chicanery may be taking place in the inner circles of power in this country, they seem pretty ineffectual and impotent at the moment. If the deep state can be equated with organized crime, then from all indications, this country is currently being ruled by The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight. 60 years ago, we had the "Best and the Brightest," but now, their successors have been a true disappointment.

The fact they successfully destroyed Libya, it is the proof they are successful.
And of course, the American commoners are the first victims. Since the Deep State is the main powerful force hindering American social justice (free healthcare, just banking system, free or affordable university)-

Since the American Deep State considers Europe just an insignificant colony to own and play with (as in monopoly), a war would be perfect, for it would destabilize Europe.
But they forget Europeans' awareness and conscience is over the mere notion of war.
 

Stevicus

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The fact they successfully destroyed Libya, it is the proof they are successful.
And of course, the American commoners are the first victims. Since the Deep State is the main powerful force hindering American social justice (free healthcare, just banking system, free or affordable university)-

Since the American Deep State considers Europe just an insignificant colony to own and play with (as in monopoly), a war would be perfect, for it would destabilize Europe.
But they forget Europeans' awareness and conscience is over the mere notion of war.

I'm not sure that Libya would be proof of success, since it was still a debacle. Moreover, the war in Iraq didn't really get started until after Bush declared "mission accomplished," as our inability to organize and manage things well enough to prevent an uprising was quite obvious. Afghanistan was an even worse debacle at the end.

There's also domestic policy failures, which are even more telling. It seems clear that the mainstream leadership is losing hearts and minds. They're losing positive control over the masses, and the rhetoric from the media exudes a certain nervousness or worry.

They remind me of a line from Star Trek DS9: "You're like a toothless old Grishnar cat trying to frighten us with your roar." If there is any deep state at all, it might have been something 50-75 years ago, but now...just a toothless old cat. It won't last long.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The fact they successfully destroyed Libya, it is the proof they are successful.
And of course, the American commoners are the first victims. Since the Deep State is the main powerful force hindering American social justice (free healthcare, just banking system, free or affordable university)-
The Deep State also faked the Moon landings, created
the Covid 19 virus, selects the Presidents, pursues white
replacement, demolished the World Trade Towers, killed
JFK, invented The Holocaust, killed Princess Diana, makes
Chem Trails to distribute nano-bots, controls the weather,
& made the Kardashians famous.
It's all true...or at least it cannot be disproven.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
The Deep State also faked the Moon landings, created
the Covid 19 virus, selects the Presidents, pursues white
replacement, demolished the World Trade Towers, killed
JFK, invented The Holocaust, killed Princess Diana, makes
Chem Trails to distribute nano-bots, controls the weather,
& made the Kardashians famous.
It's all true...or at least it cannot be disproven.
Since you claim there is no such a thing as Deep State...;)
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
The Deep State also faked the Moon landings, created
the Covid 19 virus, selects the Presidents, pursues white
replacement, demolished the World Trade Towers, killed
JFK, invented The Holocaust, killed Princess Diana, makes
Chem Trails to distribute nano-bots, controls the weather,
& made the Kardashians famous.
It's all true...or at least it cannot be disproven.

Yeah, but what have they done lately? All this proves is that their better days are behind them and they're starting to slip up. As I said, they're just a toothless old Grishnar cat trying to frighten us with their roar.

When the system finally implodes and collapses, it will be replaced by a new socialist people's republic, and there will be much rejoicing. All the hatred, racism, poverty, economic predation, etc. will all come to end. People will come together as equal brothers and sisters in a new reality. Flower petals will fall from the sky, and the damage from climate change will be reversed. The air will be clean, the water will be clean, and even the dirt - it'll be clean. Bowling averages will be way up, and miniature golf scores will be way down. And we will have more excellent water slides than any other planet we will be communicating with.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Yeah, but what have they done lately? All this proves is that their better days are behind them and they're starting to slip up. As I said, they're just a toothless old Grishnar cat trying to frighten us with their roar.

When the system finally implodes and collapses, it will be replaced by a new socialist people's republic, and there will be much rejoicing. All the hatred, racism, poverty, economic predation, etc. will all come to end. People will come together as equal brothers and sisters in a new reality. Flower petals will fall from the sky, and the damage from climate change will be reversed. The air will be clean, the water will be clean, and even the dirt - it'll be clean. Bowling averages will be way up, and miniature golf scores will be way down. And we will have more excellent water slides than any other planet we will be communicating with.

You know...American law enforcement and army are blindly lotal to the masters. To the billionaires.

Our law enforcement surely obeys the political institutions but if the latter betray their own citizens, the law enforcement will surely side with the citizens.
As history has showed many times in Europe.

And politicians do not push too hard, because they are unarmed. Law enforcement is armed.

In Russia too...there is this strong connection between people and army. Which is evident in this conflict.
 

stvdv

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I voted for this MEP in 2019. What do you think of her? Of her stance? (Eng subtitles)

Thank you for sharing @Estro Felino

Indeed she made good points. Ukrainian army burning alive people, did I see that correctly in the subtitles? That is what she said?

If true, and must be true, otherwise she would not have said it, then I would say that Ukraine did create some heavy karma.

And then the picture of the media is quite biased and indoctrination, which I see since Corona already too much, and now with this war also.

Hence I stand by my view, that both corana and the war stink and are controlled by people in high positions, otherwise journalists in the West would not be too scared to tell the truth
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
You know...American law enforcement and army are blindly lotal to the masters. To the billionaires.

Our law enforcement surely obeys the political institutions but if the latter betray their own citizens, the law enforcement will surely side with the citizens.
As history has showed many times in Europe.

And politicians do not push too hard, because they are unarmed. Law enforcement is armed.

In Russia too...there is this strong connection between people and army. Which is evident in this conflict.

But that failed for Afghanistan. It could also fail for Ukraine.
 

stvdv

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They remind me of a line from Star Trek DS9: "You're like a toothless old Grishnar cat trying to frighten us with your roar." If there is any deep state at all, it might have been something 50-75 years ago, but now...just a toothless old cat. It won't last long
Also, a cornered cat can be vicious and mean, and will do whatever it can, to get out unharmed.
 

stvdv

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The Deep State also faked the Moon landings, created the Covid 19 virus, selects the Presidents, pursues white replacement, demolished the World Trade Towers, killed JFK, invented The Holocaust, killed Princess Diana, makes them Trails to distribute nano-bots, controls the weather, & made the Kardashians famous

It's all true
Wow, we agree again, two times in a row
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
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