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Featured Pastor Kicked Out by His Congregation Over Transphobic Church Sign

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Sunstone, Jan 17, 2019.

  1. Jumi

    Jumi Well-Known Member

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    Sounds counterproductive to be honest. Though it might make you feel good, it will probably increase the distance with you.
     
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    If my husband even suggested I was his property, we would be down at the divorce court pronto. Fortunately he believes in equality of the sexes.

    If a marriage breaks down completely they should divorce and try to find happiness in another relationship. I begged my parents to divorce as they never got on. But they stayed married because of their fundamental Christian faith, which was crazy as it certainly didn't do them or their children any good whatsoever!:mad:
     
  3. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Yeah, she's still mad. It usually takes about 6 days for her to recover.
     
  4. Apologes

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    Catholic here.

    Nothing in that sign that would make me or anyone in my parish rebel. :shrug:
     
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    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    It would in mine.

    Nothing so drastic as trying to oust the pastor. But he is too good a person to post such inflammatory nonsense in the first place. That's why.
    Tom
     
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    And it's time the sign be a changing. :D

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    Yes they should indeed care what it says because many Christians take their warped sense of right and wrong from it and try to impose it on non-Christians.

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    Thirza Fallen Crazy Cat Lady

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  9. Amanaki

    Amanaki The truth lay within you.

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    Well they should not impose it on non Christians that i agree with you on
     
  10. Jollybear

    Jollybear Hey

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    Good question. And i do agree theres degrees of "sin". However, whether divorce or homosexuality is the worser of the two im not sure, but i do lean toward divorce, like you. And i lean there because it shows selfishness. Homosexuality merely goes against functional design of God. However, that said, even though Jesus did not directly address homosexuality, he indirectly did when he mentioned that God created them male and female in the beginning. Mark 10:6
     
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    Jollybear Hey

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    Like i said, your taking two puzzle pieces and not matching them correctly.

    Heres how you merge them.

    God, like a parrent loves the child, but when the child disobeys, God, like the parrent judges the child.

    You see? Walla. So simple.
     
  12. Earthling

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    You make a good point. People, which naturally includes believers and unbelievers alike, are hypocritical in nature. Replace homosexuality with any of those sins and the sign would have had the same significance, but Christians are adopting, once again, what is popular with the worldly. They wouldn't have protested if any of the sins you mentioned were on that sign.
     
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    It seems to me that most believers use their bible as something by which to judge and condemn others rather than as a guide for themselves to live by. I also find it peculiar how a lot of conservative Christians admire and idolize Trump despite there being little to no overlap between his values and those of Jesus. It appears that sins are deemed less severe when committed by political allies.
     
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    Polymath257 Think & Care
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    What's interesting here is that fundamentalist Christianity is a fairly new phenomenon (last hundred and fifty years or so). it is an outgrowth of the modern world and represents an aspect of how religion evolve.

    I certainly *hope* the OP shows a sign of things changing away from fundamentalism and that Christianity is either adapting to a new and better morality or being replaced by a more caring position.
     
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    Don't worry sir, that's not some casual throw-away line. I have been
    watching this slowly develop since the 1960's.
    Judaeo Christianity involves personal ethics. The new post-modernist,
    Marxist morality involves corporate ethics - group think if you like. This
    is not religious, it involves politics instead. That's where you get this
    "transgender" business from, ie the latest "issue" that we must conform
    to. Tomorrow it's going to be polygamy, and you will learn the party line
    on what to say and how to think.
     
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    Polymath257 Think & Care
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    I don't approve of married men having affairs (that is, going against the agreements of their marriage). But i see nothing wrong in non-monogamy that is honest.

    As for the rest of these issues, I fail to see how gambling is a moral issue at all and I hope the approval rates for the others go up over time.
     
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    Sometimes the best repair is dissolution. That's how my ex and I can still be friends.
     
  18. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    But doesn't this song make you cry?

     
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    I don't think you're picking up on the correct meaning of what it means to be a Christian. It doesn't mean they become holier than thou. It's about recognizing we are all from sin. Trump is a part of the world and Christians aren't supposed to be a part of the world so they shouldn't bother with him. But, that's using the Bible. Like I always remind the unwashed heathens, King David was no angel but he was beloved of Jehovah.

    But yeah, you're right in that the Christian will condemn others before removing that post from their own eye.
     
  20. PruePhillip

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    Going to church, as some wit put it, makes you a Christian
    in the same way as going to a garage makes you a car.
    Many don't necessarily support Trump because they like
    him - they just hate his opposition. Watch any video on
    American campus politics and you get an idea of where
    America could be heading.
     
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