Hi just been researching the Torah and its spread to half the worlds people. We all share it. The talmud is the Jewish equivelent of the Haddiths-the oral tradition as well as the Sunnah-the way of the prophet.
These are also equivilent oral traditions etc of Christianity.
What is central to all 3 faiths is Torah. Jesus and Muhhamed both pointed to the Torah as the basis of their faiths. Gods revealed word to the Hebrew prophets. With both your neighbor was the gentile, conversion was meant to be through winning the hearts of the gentile through their apostolic, not violent action. This was necessary to spread the talmud.
Anyway beem researching the early Jewish Sects before the fall of the temple to try and see how both traditions fit with Judaism. Here are my findings, which are a little agenda slanted. My agenda is for us all to unite under God because as Abrahamic faiths we are supposed to be.
We are all Israelites
Excuse the essay, but what I have to say cannot be said succinctly. There is no URL for this as it is an entirely original piece of work.
About 500 years after Christianity arrived, so did Islam in the Arab tribes of the Saudi peninsula.
Where did this new tradition have its roots? Why did the Muslims profess faith in the Jewish Torah, believing it too to be Gods Laws written by Mans hands.
Mohammed claimed decent to Abraham through the tribe of Ishmael. It was Issac or as he was name later Israel, who was chosen by God to have his descendants carry the covenant of God as his chosen people. Necessarily none apostolic to defend and hold on to the Law of the one God in a world where mans free will and self worship ruled.
However this man away from God built the world we know today and has significantly increased the possibility to live without suffering and with love through our technologies, a necessary evil, in the plan of salvation. Those who did not submit to human Law in their hearts but strived to keep the natural laws of the covenant, despite a lack of theological knowledge would also have been saved.
Meanwhile the Israelites, held the covenant through captivity, loosing many of their number (the lost tribes-see the lemba peoples) along the way who’s descendants did not return to Jerusalem, Jersusalem signifiying the place where Gods covenant shall be housed so God may live amongst the people. The covenant being in essence the 10 commandments.
If you appraised your own life by these basic commandments I am sure we would all be found wanting, to greater or lesser degrees if we can examine ourselves honestly.
So many were lost to the world away from substansial knowledge of the world. Some of these people where good honest upright people as they are today, others were self serving and evil. All had a mix of the two, a necessary consequence of free will and the only judge of a Mans heart will be God. We can however know the tree by its fruit and not submit to power which is not right or just.
Our religions are a vehicle to achieving oneness with the covenant in our lives, rather than our faith in God which transcends religious practice. God is love, those how love rather than hate, those who do not judge but believe fate will judge a man by the consequences of his actions, they will be saved. Not the religious hypocrits who profess one thing and do another without even remorse for their perversion of the word. The only thing a person of faith can fight for is the truth, even if that truth is frightening the lie concealing it must be battled. This battle should be one where compassion is felt for the enemy and out of will to make them see the light. It should also be to protect innocent people from evil in which ever way you can, even if that means giving your own life. However a martyr is not one that fights for retribution, they are one that fights against evil and is killed by it.
On this note I would just like to show how Islam is from Jewish tradition from at least the 3rd century AD, before Muhammed!
This following passage comes from the Panarion of Epiphanius of Salamis, written in the 3rd-4th century AD, a few hundred years before Mohammed!
“…for he forbids prayer facing east. He claims that it is not right to face in that direction, but to Jerusalem from east to west, some from west to east, some form north to south and south to north, so that Jerusalem is faced from wherever one is. “
Pg44
This was the instruction of their ‘prophet’ Elxai, the Messenger of Secret knowledge who came after Jesus the Nazerene.
It was also claimed that were surviving bloodlines of Elxai and that to the time of the writing of this book they still venerated this line. This ties in well with Gnostic texts and Islamic tradition.
“(,<The Sect is> still <in existence> even in our day, during the reigns of constantius and the present emperors.) For until Constaninius’ time a Marthus and a Marthana (look at the names!), two sisters descended from Elxai himself, were worshipped as goddesses in the Ossaean territory-because they were Elxai’s descendant, if you please! Yet Marthus has recently died, (although Marthana is still alive!)”
Pg 45-Panarion of Epiphanius of Salamis.
Bear in mind this was a Bishop of Cyprus at the time who was working who was working for the early church to unify religious practice. The Nicene council, the first of the church was formed in his lifetime where the first rule and statements of belief where laid out as the Roman Empire started to become christianised. Therefore some of his material is going to be inaccurate. He stated for a whole page that he was working with the best material he had available to him including first-hand knowledge.
So who was Jesus. Reading the descriptions of the other Jewish sects he seems to have fallen under the Essense Union for sure with its communal property and feasting, hallmarks of the early church and fundamental in his teachings beyond that he seems to have pretty much taken the best from all available and thrown out that which distract from Torah.
He also like Muhammed brought the laws of the Jewish Torah to the Gentile (Although he was an Arab many Arabisised people today are collectively known that way).
Would Christianity have made it to the people of the East to? No because the Roman empire, the vehicle for the faith did not extend to the reaches the Islamic Empire that started with Muhammed did. Therefore for God to reveal Torah to the whole world so that all would be able to access the message of salvation, revelation in the Koran was necessary. It also put pay to the pagan religions that proceeded it as did Christianity by incorporating pagan rituals into religious practice.
It is quite amazing that in the space of 2000 years the Israelite Torah has been transmitted to so many people, so much so that over 50% of the planets population profess faith in the God of Abraham and his laws.
It is time to stop squabbling whos is the correct religion and start worrying what Gods law is. Torah has been revealed to us all. The Abrahamic religions are Jewish, we have to accept that all of us and move on.
It is in our faith in God and his law that we are united. The New Jerusalem cannot be built until all Israelites live by the law.
Back in biblical times when there was only 1 house of God in the temple of Jerusalem as opposed to Temples, Churches and Mosques today, all that kept Torah in their religious observance and their hearts most importantly were permitted to worship there.
Contast that with today where despite a house of God existing on the Temple mount, worshippers are separated, the Jews go to the remaining wall of the Old Temple, Herods temple, and the Muslims go to the Mosque of the dome of the rock.
The great cathedral of Cordoba, originally made under Islamic rule as a Mosque, during times of tolerance between Muslims and Christians both we permitted to worship their separately. If justice prevailed which God willing it will, the Church will open the doors to Muslims once more for Worship.
It would be amazing if the Dome of the Mount became a place we all too could come to worship the one God too, just as the Jewish sects did. If the Abrahamic faiths were united in Gods Law we could eradicate the tyranny of evil from the world.
Israel must be freed, blood ,must stop flowing on Holy Soil.
By the way the Ossasaeans if you google them i see no links to Islam shown however very interestingly the link to Buddhism is the in the 'Order of Nazorean Esseses', a buddhist branch of original christianity.... thats interesting and Im going to read up some on this...
Ive always thought Bhuddist philosophy paraellels the good in so many other religions.
