Pantheism vs Panentheism: What is the difference?

[Jainarayan]

Simply, and literal Greek:

Pantheism = All is God; the universe and creation and God are tied together.
Panentheism - All is in God. God transcends the universe, and the universe(s) is/are within God.

"I pervade and support the entire universe by a very small fraction of My divine power." Bhagavad Gita 10.42

This is panentheistic because Sri Krishna is greater than the universe or multiverses, yet He is all through it, transcends it, and supports it with only a fraction of His divinity.

 

[idav]

Is that all there is to it..?
If we say God is the Universe...than you must find yourself saying God is cancer or God is the Earthquake that kills 20,000 who are themselves God...

Existence isn't really bad or good. Cancer is a malfunction of human design so if god meant us to be like this then god is far from perfect. Even in panentheism this is an issue where god is everywhere yet still lets "evil" happen.

God being everything can be viewed differently in Pantheism and depends on your outlook on spiritual issues like monism or dualism. Pantheism can still have transcendence without having to place god outside existence or outside the universe.

 

[no-body]

Semantics

and

"God" is beyond good and evil.

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

Existence isn't really bad or good. Cancer is a malfunction of human design so if god meant us to be like this then god is far from perfect. Even in panentheism this is an issue where god is everywhere yet still lets "evil" happen.

Evil is not in the philosophic construct of the Dharma religions like in the West. Instead the pull of duality is harmony and chaos or Ignorance and knowledge.

Some times the Asuras (demons behave good) and the Devas (beings of light are bad) It's was not even close to the same paradigm.

So panentheism in the India was a lot different before the conquest of the of the Abrahamic people's

 

[idav]

Evil is not in the philosophic construct of the Dharma religions like in the West. Instead the pull of duality is harmony and chaos or Ignorance and knowledge.

Some times the Asuras (demons behave good) and the Devas (beings of light are bad) It's was not even close to the same paradigm.

So panentheism in the India was a lot different before the conquest of the of the Abrahamic people's

Right, the eastern philosophies have taken care of the issue even before bringing in the mythology.

 

[gnostic]

What's the difference? The difference is "en".

Smarty pant....

 

[after the end]

In other words, the two views differ in their attitude towards the adage "the whole is more than the sum of its parts." Pantheists disagree when it comes to God.

Pantheists and panentheists call all that exists (materially) "God," but pantheists believe that there is no thing greater than everything, while panentheists believe that that there is "something" that is everything, combined...? Am I on the right track?

In terms of Kantian categories, we could say that both views believe in some form of totality, but pantheism dictates that it is a plurality and panentheism dictates it is a unity.

Please let me know what you think! :help:

 

[anywhere]

let's not forget about pandeism and deism, the former stating that when God became this universe we see it gave up its Oneness, becoming a multitude of parts; and the latter being the view that emerged in the enlightenment era that God created our world to be autonomous and we have to govern ourselves, and, if we want to grasp something of the Divine we must study nature (also the Holy books are crap)

hope i baffled some of you even more