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Pacifism: Let this be the LAST WAR We Have !!

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Paranoid Android, Jul 22, 2015.

  1. Paranoid Android

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    I am, because of my religious principles, a pacifist. Dementheology teaches God's Wisdom, and one of the Wisdoms teachings is pacifism. It teaches that you are NOT to give any space to Satan, and retaliate or kill another person, even if your life is threatened.
    I look at what humans do and I feel an emotion: despair. The thing is that we have been so trained to tolerate violence ( violence against woman, violence against ethnic groups, violence against "outsiders", violence against LGBT and violence against the disabled), that I am making the assumption that we will use the nuclear bomb. We will use it and we will continue acting like a pack of vicious, wild wolves that I really have started thinking that we shouldn't allow them to live on this planet.
    What I propose is exile into outer space. When we sufficiently explore space, I suggest that people that act criminally or socially violent should be exiled to a planet. When we do so, we provide them the means to survive, because animals only need that. What do wolves and sharks need ? Food, air and that's IT. If they survive, good. If they die, good. It will be up to God whether they live or die. If God sees their obedience, He'll let them live. If they disobey and become amoral, vicious, savage animals , then God will most likely let them DIE as what they have chosen to become- amoral, vicious, savage animals.
    In my opinion, sociopaths are lost. They CAN'T be forgiven, because they lack one main human condition: empathy. Without empathy, one can not feel what they did was wrong. Since they can not feel what they did was wrong, they are doomed to burn in Hell.
     
  2. Nakosis

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    That's pretty much how Australia was colonized.
     
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  3. Paranoid Android

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    We have to face the facts.

    There are two animals populating the planet.

    One: Human. are peaceful. They are intelligent, peaceful, empathic species.

    Two. Animals/Sociopaths. They are violent, settle their problems violently, exploit other Humans and are as ready to kill as you are to read your daily paper.

    Humans belong one Earth

    Animals/Sociopaths don't.
     
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    This is interesting.

    How to Tell a Sociopath from a Psychopath | Psychology Today

    I always thought it the sociopath that could hide easily. It's the psychopath who will be your best buddy as they stab you in the back.

    Also they're saying the sociopath is a problem caused by upbringing.

    First thought was also, "No chance at redemption?" For a psychopath, apparently not. They were born wired that way.
     
  5. Paranoid Android

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    Exactle. Hence they deserve the eternal Hellfire of God and long may they scream and cure in God's eternal, devouring Hellfire.
     
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    This is called pacifism by someone who is very confused I fear.
     
  7. Paranoid Android

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    I'm not confused. I have been chosen to speak this message to God's Chosen People, the disabled. I'm sorry your not one of God's Chosen. I'll be sorry to see you in Hell.
     
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    Angellous wuz here.

    He lamented over the intellectually and spiritually bankrupt application of the noble doctrine of pacifism.

    And then he left.
     
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    durrrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ..Satan go back to the Darkness you came from ! I speak the Holy Words ! You CANNOT stay here !! Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
     
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    Angellous was drawn back to the scene of the crime.

    Convinced thqt he was right the first time, he turns his attention to more worthy matters. Like Trump.
     
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  11. Paranoid Android

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    Seeing that Satan is using him to speak disparaging words, again I invoke the Holy Words and meditate...Durrrrrrrrrrrrrr Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
     
  12. Deathbydefault

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    I understand basic pacifism, however, I do not understand it in the big picture.
    Your view of something of a semi-Utopian society, in which criminals are cast off to a distant planet, is unrealistic.

    Humans will always kill humans.
    Humans will always rape humans.
    Humans will always hurt humans.

    Because we are simply animals that are more intelligent than all the others, on this planet anyways.
    We all are bound down by instinct in one way or another.
    I claim to be asexual, but during puberty (and other encounters) I sometimes found certain women attractive.
    I want to be asexual, I prefer people stay away from me 100% of the time and I dislike all human contact.
    But I am subject to natural impulses just like everyone else.

    For some people those impulses are stronger, or they somewhat feed off of something such as a fetish.
    That's why people get hurt, raped, and murdered - or at least that's the dumbest explanation I can give for it.

    So, I'm sure 1,000 or 10,000 or 1,000,000 years from now, people will still be killing and raping other people.
    Assuming that our species still exists, that is.

    So after making that point I'll say a few other things.
    -I do not condemn wars
    -I do not condemn human impulses
    -I see large scale pacifism as pointless
    -I don't see people dying as bad

    I do not advocate murder or rape or death, but I do not see them as subjectively bad either.
    They are simply things that happen, that'll always happen.

    Yet another 'like it or not' situation, it seems.
     
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    Obviously, God wants it as described in The Edict. The Edict is the scriptures for Dementheologists, which is His Chosen People, the disabled.

    Sociopaths/ Psychopaths are unable to be saved. They feel no guilt. They are NOT human. They are, in effect, subhumans. I believe disabled people will be saved. Subhumans will not. To put it in simple terms, they can cut your throat and not give a [email protected]# about it. Not shed one [email protected]#$%^ tear.
     
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    Earth is a system comprised of many parts.
    Humanity is one such part.

    There will always be murderers, rapists and other cruel humans.
    There will, likewise, always be those of goodwill.

    Pain and death are a part of life that we should accept.
    Cruelty is like an incurable disease in the body of the earth.
    Kindness the antibodies, fighting a never-ending battle.

    I personally am a pacifist up to a certain point (much like the Dalai Lama).
    I despise nearly all non-defensive wars, with the exception of a war launched to protect another nation under serious threat of massacre.
    War can be just, but it is most often not.
    And it is always ugly.

    I do not believe in heaven or hell, or god.

    It's up to us to decide if this makes kindness pointless.
    I don't think it is.
     
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    Yep. Although our crimes included things like stealing bread, as well as more universally accepted forms of evil.
    So based on that model, if we send all the convicts to Mars to live in a little bubble amongst a desert, Mars will eventually end up the go-to destination for everyone in the universe, Martians will be ridiculously good-looking, and the Martian cricket team will come back and completely pants the combined Earth 11.
     
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  17. Deathbydefault

    Deathbydefault Apistevist Asexual Atheist

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    Medically speaking, I am one such person.
    I assure that by scientific, and secular standards I am most certainly a human.
    I don't want to be "saved", nor do I believe in which ever God you do.

    Also your hearsay on God's part is not convincing nor is it, in any way, compelling.
    I can easily say some baseless assertion and it is completely equal to your own.

    I say, the dragons that developed magical powers 73 thousand years ago will come back to life and enslave us all in 100 years.
    Absolutely equal to a God claim.
     
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    Yes, but this is true! :p
     
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    How do you figure?
     
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    Because you are my prophet, of course...
    Just fooling around.

    In my defense, I am sleep-deprived and on strong pain meds so I am sorry for butting in there.
    I think I will do everyone a favor and go take a nap.
     
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