I see propaganda that we've unlimited resources,
thereby justifying an ever increasing population.
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thereby justifying an ever increasing population.
Curious George
Veteran Member
Which propaganda have you seen that shows we have unlimited resources?
It's an implicit assumption behind the claim that
we need immigrants for our economy to grow.
Curious George
Veteran Member
Lol. You don't think that is a little stretch?
Nope.
Not for those of us who consider the implications of advocating an ever increasing workforce.
Curious George
Veteran Member
Lol. Okay, then please set forth how it is implicit, because I do not see it.
Without unlimited resources, how could you have unlimited workforce expansion?
You can't.
Curious George
Veteran Member
Where do you here claims for unlimited immigration?
Curious George
Veteran Member
And how did you get from immigrants grow the economy to unlimited economic growth?
In the news regarding immigration reform, I see politicians
calling for immigration for the purpose of economic expansion.
They don't ever mention any limit. There is no discussion of
just how much workforce expansion we need.
Curious George
Veteran Member
So you assume they mean unlimited. Lol. Alright, I agree that you are seeing propoganda, I disagree that such propaganda is about unlimited resources .
I begin to suspect that we've a difference of opinion.
Curious George
Veteran Member
By all means, queue up a sound bite and let us deconstruct it.
I think both of you are correct.
What this is really about is the dysfunctional current system and the unwillingness of the USA, as a society, to talk about it.
We not only let almost anybody in, we entice them with jobs. We don't bother vetting them or prioritizing.
But we won't have an honest conversation about how that current policy affects different people. Much less how things could be done differently. The huge influx of the last 20 years or so has created some big winners and losers. Unskilled and entry level people have taken a big hit. Investors and managers have profited enormously from cheap labor.
But in the absence of a coherent policy that gets enforced on the people who are creating the problem by hiring the undocumented, there's no real conversation about how many are too many.
The implication is that more is better, without any qualifying of that assumption. But nobody will quite say that, because millions of voters want to get rid of them all. Alienating that many voters is a ticket home, and all politicians know that.
So they blame the workers and throw up their hands, as though they're powerless to change anything substantial.
Tom
That's like arguing that one link is the important one in the chain.
We have consumers who like cheap prices, & government giving
illegals benefits & ultimately citizenship for sneaking in through
our porous borders.
I guess you have never heard the term "weakest link"?
Of course consumers like cheap products. That's one of the big problems that the USA has. Uninformed consumers, shopping by price. Like the people complaining about the loss of manufacturing jobs while they drive their Toyota to Walmart to buy a bunch of foreign made products.
But the more important part is this. The people who own Walmart have a lot more influence over what happens in Washington DC than most people do.
Tom
socharlie
Active Member
Of course, but that doesn't apply to my analogy,
ie, all links in the chain are necessary.
One cannot say "There's the link holding the load!".
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
People are killed all of the time, but rarely is it done as a means of population control. Are you suggesting that killing off innocent people is the best solution for the overpopulation problem?
socharlie
Active Member
recently
we wiped out as some estimated 7 million Arabs, just culled them for many fake reasons.