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Overpopulation is the worst thing for man.

Discussion in 'The Green Room' started by Jonathan Bailey, Jul 31, 2019.

  1. Jonathan Bailey

    Jonathan Bailey Well-Known Member

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    It:

    1. spreads resources very thin for people
    2. this results in:
    a. widespread poverty
    b. famine
    c. poverty
    d. unemployment
    e. people having to live in less-desirable places in the world
    f. high crime
    g. pollution, destruction of the environment
    h. congestion
    g. degraded quality of human living for many

    Overpopulation is attributed mainly to selfishness and/or ignorance.

    The Native Americans kept America beautiful by keeping their numbers limited.

    When desirable places on earth become scarce due to competition, they become expensive and unattainable for many. The Sacramento Valley in California is the most desirable area on earth to live and work but only for those rich enough due to high taxes and high home prices. When humans are fewer in numbers, more desirable way of life are attainable and sustainable for more folks.

    Poorer people often live in places that are polluted, congested, dilapidated in infrastructure, crime-ridden, prone to both man-made and natural disasters and have adverse climate and weather. The midwest and plains states are cheap to live due to tornadoes, flash floods, dust and hurricanes as well as lack of interesting natural scenery. Nobody wants to live there.

    If money were no object, would you rather live in Sacramento or Texas?

    There is virtually no risk for natural disasters in Sacramento and Sacramento is well enough away from California fault lines. There are high housing costs, high taxes and limited employment opportunity there, however.

    The world should only have no more than one tenth its current numbers for mankind for long-term sustainability and comfort for most people.
     
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  3. Jonathan Bailey

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    Much of America's overpopulation has been due to lack of immigration control. I have to compete with all these outsiders on my own soil for the nicer parts of America as California. I was raised and educated in the San Francisco Bay Area from babyhood, 1965 until 1999. We used to think Sacramento then was undesirable but Sacramento is more expensive to live there now than SF Bay Area was when I was young. The huge influx of Asians into California drove the prices of everything there sky high. The Democrats ruined California for the long-time American citizens there. California was both lovely and affordable under Republican governors Ronald Reagan, George Deukmejian and Pete Wilson. The Indians and Asians with means came in and hogged California for themselves. California took a big dump starting with Gray Davis and Brown made it all the worse.
     
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    A short-term temporary fix in order to diminish overpopulation would be a three child policy, meaning anybody who procreates more than three children would then become forcibly sterilized by governmental health officials.

    A permanent solution to end our planet's overpopulation, would be the human colonization of Mars.

    Mars is likely the first place beyond Earth in our solar system to get a man-made biosphere that is an appreciable fraction in size comparable to Earth's biosphere. [​IMG]

    The use of the Big Falcon 9 rocket is instrumental in my plan towards building a biosphere on Mars that'd be an appreciable fraction in size comparable to Earth's biosphere.

    The first step towards the terraforming of Mars is the deployment of a magnetic shield that protects Mars against the solar wind stripping of its atmosphere. This magnetic shielding would subsequently allow the planet's atmosphere to reacquire its former density that'd be high enough to allow for sustainable surface liquid

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    Reference: https://phys.org/news/2017-03-nasa-magne...phere.html

    An effective artificial magnetosphere placed at Langrangian point 1 from Mars is very achievable with foreseeable technology. This magnetic shielding apparatus could weigh less than a few hundred tonnes which is within the load capacity of a big Falcon 9 rocket. I'm guessing the cost of protecting the Martian atmosphere with an artificial magnetosphere would probably be similar to the cost of a small nuclear reactor.

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    Some few billion tonnes of sulfur hexafluoride gas (SF6) could increase Martian atmospheric surface temperatures by over 20 degrees Celsius. Sulfur hexafluoride - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The SpaceX interplanetary transport system could deliver this super greenhouse gas to Mars at a cost of less than $2,000/kg.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Mar...astructure

    A few hundred thousand tonnes of SF6 delivered annually to Mars would cost just approximately $1/2 trillion yearly. This is less than a fraction of a percent of the global economic output value. An accumulation of a few billion tonnes of SF6 at an annual rate of a few hundred thousand tonnes would take less than a few thousand years. The annual cost of less than $100 per person per year on Earth would be totally worth transforming Mars into a world with triple its current atmospheric pressure and a warmer Mars with average surface temperatures greater than typical summer Antarctic temperatures.

     
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  5. Amanaki

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    How many white foreign people do you think live in America and you do not even notice them, because they look like you? Or is it bad that Scandinavian or white European people move to California too? or is it only colored people you dislike move there?
     
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    No, the practical solution is not to send humans out of this word literally

    but to slow down their rate of reproduction considerably.

    Adopt children in need of homes already instead of making brand-new babies.

    Get off the ego trip.

    People need to part with this old-hat bible-thumping notion of "be fruitful and multiply".

    Be fruitful and provide for pre-existing living children in need.
     
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    I don't think any Scandinavians made California expensive to live. They did sell Volvos and Saabs to many a California yuppie. "SAAB" when you see the repair bill! Back when there were many more white faces in California, say 1990's and earlier, it, even San Francisco, was affordable and jobs were plenty. The Mexicans never destroyed the California economy either. They only provided cheap farm labor to make it even more affordable. I don't think blacks ruined the CA economy: they took the menial jobs mainly as bus drivers, train porters, skycaps, janitors, burger-flippers and shoeshine boys. Boatloads of people coming in from the East destroyed the place. The Chinese have a monopoly on CA banking. In the 1980's, the Silicon Valley was white-male-dominated in the tech business and was the American Dream. Before 1990, seeing a black face in Marin County was a rarity and virtually impossible in Sonoma and Napa Counties. The black people lived mainly in the east Bay, East Oakland, Alameda County, Contra Costa, Vallejo, Solano County and East Palo Alto, the "East LA" ghetto by the Peninsula, not hardly in the now-opulent white parts of the Bay. Stockton is the Harlem of the CA Central Valley.
     
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    So it is bad that both women and foreign (Asian, Middle east) People have started working in Silicon Vally? It should be a white man's man cave ?
     
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    If Earth were destroyed by some unforeseeable calamity, it'd be nice for the survival of our species to live elsewhere.

    People aren't wise to leave all their eggs in one basket; likewise a highly evolved great ape species like us humans, aren't wise to leave all our individuals on one planet.
     
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    You can jet to Mars if you wish. I think I'd rather live in Texas.
     
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    Education and contraception and empowering of women will all tackle birth rates.
     
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    Mars with a man-made biosphere an appreciable fraction of Earth's could be a nice place for most anybody to live; of course, it'd take many years for this to happen. We could save Texas and the entire planet from climate change by sending green house gases like Carbon Dioxide from Earth to Mars. That'd be nice.
     
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    Allowing abortions on demand would too.
     
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    Well, that's a last resort solution, I'm pro-choice but 'on demand' is radical.
     
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    It's the men who make shiploads of babies out of ego. That figures. Lowering the numbers of mankind will mean less women suffering labor. We need to start snipping the parts of all these selfish men. Forced vasectomies.
     
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    Kangaroo Feathers Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...

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    Ah, there it is. When you were talking about overpopulation as a global issue, you were making sense. I wondered what was wrong.
     
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    Nature has a way of taking care of itself no matter what.
     
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    Overpopulation of humans is also the worse thing for every living creature other than humans.
     
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    In your OP, you've missed what is by far the most significant impact of human overpopulation, which I find a rather shocking oversight.

    Far and away the most significant impact of human overpopulation is this planet being catapulted into a sixth mass extinction event and planet-wide ecological genocide. The impact of human overpopulation on humans is downright trivial compared to this.
     
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    Kangaroo Feathers Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...

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    The whole thing was a stalking horse to legitimise his swipe at immigrants. You seem surprised?
     
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