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Origin of gods voice

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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
So...you're about to go to see your family member who you didn't know was sick on the hospital Intensive Care Unit (ICU). You have this Feeling that something was wrong but you couldnt put your finger on it. Then, when you stopped thinking of it, a phone call startles you. Your mother had a stroke. You think "I knew it" and run to the hospital.
Scenarios
Another scenario. You always wanted to talk with your grandma you haven't seen in years. You have a feeling she's trying to talk to you but you cant get in touch. She passes away before you could talk to her. One day during your grieving you were about to cross the street and you felt someone hele you back. Your reaction was thank you grandma. You knew it was her because of that emotional tug and loss.

Ten years ago, you won the bet on a race. You did it by making a last guess on a bid and won. As you play, you start to figure the ropes. Now you're winning big. You figured out the pattern and you know how and when to bid. Works at casinos and other gambles. You're on a roll.
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Long story short: which is gods voice and how do you know?

I was reading this:
Head, Heart or Gut...Which One's Right? out of curiosity and was wondering how you guys hear gods voice.

I really really want to know this from Muslims (I think) and Jews because the idea of a prophet throws me off of how one hears gods voice without them. Yall can't tell the difference. So, non trinitarians, Muslims, and Jews speaking to you.

The first scenario is a common one I hear. Of course it's not objectified without religious overtone, but thinking between the lines its still there. How do you tell the difference between gods voice and assuming it is based on emotional ties?

Second example, it could be your grandma. That's a personal belief only you know. If your grandmother never passed on, how would you explain who saves you without reference to the contrary?

Last scenario isn't about emotions nor about what your common conclusions. How do you know, since its based on logic, it wasn't gods voice?

The link talks about knowing the difference between your gut (first scenario), heart (second) , or brain (third).

They all have something in common. Without scriptures and prophets how do you differientiate these things as gut, heart, an brain as gods voice and not "yours"?

I ask non scripture or prophet believers because gods voice is not something written nor told by a third party. While idolizing people and books to define something you can't are fine, there are others who god spoke with directly without prophets and books. This kinda throws half RF out of the picture but Im curious regardless.

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Anyone who believes in god(s) voice/s would be good too. Just not all abrahamic though I dont hear much about the nature of a deity creator from muslims.
 
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Drew Henefer

Warrior
Unveiled Artist said:
So...you're about to go to see your family member who you didn't know was sick on the hospital Intensive Care Unit (ICU). You have this Feeling that something was wrong but you couldnt put your finger on it. Then, when you stopped thinking of it, a phone call startles you. Your mother had a stroke. You think "I knew it" and run to the hospital.
Scenarios

Long story short: which is gods voice and how do you know?

I was reading this:
Head, Heart or Gut...Which One's Right? out of curiosity and was wondering how you guys hear gods voice.

I really really want to know this from Muslims and Jews because the idea of a prophet throws hearing gods voice directly. Yall can't tell the difference. So, non trinitarians, Muslims, and Jews speaking to you.

The first scenario is a common one I hear. Of course it's not objectified without religious overtone, but thinking between the lines its still there. How do you tell the difference between gods voice and assuming it is based on emotional ties?

Second example, it could be your grandma. That's a personal belief only you know. If your grandmother never passed on, how would you explain who saves you without reference to the contrary?

Last scenario isn't about emotions nor about what your common conclusions. How do you know, since its based on logic, it wasn't gods voice?

The link talks about knowing the difference between your gut (first scenario), heart (second) , or brain (third).

They all have something in common. Without scriptures and prophets how do you differientiate these things as gut, heart, an brain as gods voice and not "yours"?

I ask non scripture or prophet believers because gods voice is not something written nor told by a third party. While idolizing people and books to define something you can't there are others who god spoke with directly without prophets and books. This kinda throws half RF out of the picture but Im curious regardless.
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There were time and then there were life and then there were strength then there were space then there were rule then there was direction and then God spoke....pure magic
 
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whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Unveiled Artist said:
So...you're about to go to see your family member who you didn't know was sick on the hospital Intensive Care Unit (ICU). You have this Feeling that something was wrong but you couldnt put your finger on it. Then, when you stopped thinking of it, a phone call startles you. Your mother had a stroke. You think "I knew it" and run to the hospital.
Scenarios

Long story short: which is gods voice and how do you know?

I was reading this:
Head, Heart or Gut...Which One's Right? out of curiosity and was wondering how you guys hear gods voice.

I really really want to know this from Muslims (I think) and Jews because the idea of a prophet throws me off of how one hears gods voice without them. Yall can't tell the difference. So, non trinitarians, Muslims, and Jews speaking to you.

The first scenario is a common one I hear. Of course it's not objectified without religious overtone, but thinking between the lines its still there. How do you tell the difference between gods voice and assuming it is based on emotional ties?

Second example, it could be your grandma. That's a personal belief only you know. If your grandmother never passed on, how would you explain who saves you without reference to the contrary?

Last scenario isn't about emotions nor about what your common conclusions. How do you know, since its based on logic, it wasn't gods voice?

The link talks about knowing the difference between your gut (first scenario), heart (second) , or brain (third).

They all have something in common. Without scriptures and prophets how do you differientiate these things as gut, heart, an brain as gods voice and not "yours"?

I ask non scripture or prophet believers because gods voice is not something written nor told by a third party. While idolizing people and books to define something you can't are fine, there are others who god spoke with directly without prophets and books. This kinda throws half RF out of the picture but Im curious regardless.
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"If you want to hear God talk read the Bible. If you want to hear God speak out loud, read it out loud" John Piper

However I think God can move a person to have concerns as a help.
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Unveiled Artist said:
So...you're about to go to see your family member who you didn't know was sick on the hospital Intensive Care Unit (ICU). You have this Feeling that something was wrong but you couldnt put your finger on it. Then, when you stopped thinking of it, a phone call startles you. Your mother had a stroke. You think "I knew it" and run to the hospital.
Scenarios

Long story short: which is gods voice and how do you know?

I was reading this:
Head, Heart or Gut...Which One's Right? out of curiosity and was wondering how you guys hear gods voice.

I really really want to know this from Muslims (I think) and Jews because the idea of a prophet throws me off of how one hears gods voice without them. Yall can't tell the difference. So, non trinitarians, Muslims, and Jews speaking to you.

The first scenario is a common one I hear. Of course it's not objectified without religious overtone, but thinking between the lines its still there. How do you tell the difference between gods voice and assuming it is based on emotional ties?

Second example, it could be your grandma. That's a personal belief only you know. If your grandmother never passed on, how would you explain who saves you without reference to the contrary?

Last scenario isn't about emotions nor about what your common conclusions. How do you know, since its based on logic, it wasn't gods voice?

The link talks about knowing the difference between your gut (first scenario), heart (second) , or brain (third).

They all have something in common. Without scriptures and prophets how do you differientiate these things as gut, heart, an brain as gods voice and not "yours"?

I ask non scripture or prophet believers because gods voice is not something written nor told by a third party. While idolizing people and books to define something you can't are fine, there are others who god spoke with directly without prophets and books. This kinda throws half RF out of the picture but Im curious regardless.
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only when I need it.....
like the car accident

I felt nervous and looked for my seal belt
in those days the plastic housing that holds the belt in place was not invented yet
so.....the belt was on the floor behind the seat

I locked my door and put my back to it
I slid down and forward in my seat
and the driver wanted to know if I felt alright

I said.....just drive the car

a drunk pulled out in front of us attempting a left hand turn......running a stop sign to do so
my driver never got a chance to hit the brake

60 to 0 kills people

I walked away

there are bloody details......and that strange condition of not feeling pain
for an hour
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Thief said:
only when I need it.....
like the car accident

I felt nervous and looked for my seal belt
in those days the plastic housing that holds the belt in place was not invented yet
so.....the belt was on the floor behind the seat

I locked my door and put my back to it
I slid down and forward in my seat
and the driver wanted to know if I felt alright

I said.....just drive the car

a drunk pulled out in front of us attempting a left hand turn......running a stop sign to do so
my driver never got a chance to hit the brake

60 to 0 kills people

I walked away

there are bloody details......and that strange condition of not feeling pain
for an hour
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Nice.

That's similar to scenario two. Except for instead of someone known the actual result was unknown but you drew conclusions (like the griever) based on what you already believed.

A very strong confirmed bias based on the intensity and meaning of the situation and not what is, quite literally, luck.

How do you differientiate your experience as gods voice and not your conclusions based on what you already believe?

Not trying to downplay your experience just questioning the logic of how you drew your conclusions and defintion of them.
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Unveiled Artist said:
Nice.

That's similar to scenario two. Except for instead of someone known the actual result was unknown but you drew conclusions (like the griever) based on what you already believed.

A very strong confirmed bias based on the intensity and meaning of the situation and not what is, quite literally, luck.

How do you differientiate your experience as gods voice and not your conclusions based on what you already believe?

Not trying to downplay your experience just questioning the logic of how you drew your conclusions and defintion of them.
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we humans have five senses
all are retroactive.....feel. and see ....then perceive

what I 'felt'......and the pending event
were not within everyday perception

kinda like.....this will hurt
brace yourself
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Thief said:
we humans have five senses
all are retroactive.....feel. and see ....then perceive

what I 'felt'......and the pending event
were not within everyday perception

kinda like.....this will hurt
brace yourself
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I can see that. How did you associate it with god?

Was it the mystery of the result of the experience? The intensity supporting already held beliefs?

A lot of us experience things like that. Though, depending on the persons explains how they define the experience to themselves (offering closest rational explanation) an expression to others.
 
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