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Order of Anubis

Discussion in 'Setian DIR' started by aa_nerut, May 13, 2010.

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  1. Valor

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    hmmm.. I registered with the Order, but it seems not to be very active. So i sent a few pm's to those in the Priesthood. I'll log any info here when i get a better idea and responce.

    Is anyone else registered?
     
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    Can anyone else put their own spin/experience on Xem? I've only read little concerning it's properties.

    Thank you.
     
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    Xem has been explained as a laser in comparison to a flashlight, more exact, focused and fine tuned for one purpose. It has blinders on, which is good because it blocks out anything it doesn’t see, it is bad for the same reason too. With such precise focusing you might not see the dangers coming up behind you as you are so fixated on the “Self ahead of the Self”. These potential dangers can overtake you, which I believe the Xem Magus experienced.

    Xem was the answer of To Become What? The answer was the Self ahead of the Self.
    How do you apply Xem then with these potential dangers creeping up behind you that can overtake you? I think the vision of Xem is interesting, but its flaw is the “laser” type focus that it has. It is very one way, it doesn’t have a sway to it, it only wants to reach that horizon beyond, even though with every step forward the horizon moves too. The Self always stays ahead of the Self. Xem can be used with a limit to show accomplishment or advancement towards that goal. Make markers for yourself beyond what you are. Let’s say you your goal has definable points of progression, I will use flexibility for an example, though might not be the best example. If you can only stretch so far now, the Xem state of yourself has a much greater stretch and flexibility. A sign post would be a marked improvement of your flexibility as you continue to stretch beyond your “normal” limit. It is not the absolute goal you had in mind, but it shows progression in a singular area, the laser focus of Xem.

    Xem should be approached in segments and then evaluated. When you don’t take the time to stop and evaluate what you are doing, you can lose momentum via proof, and you can also build up delusions of accomplishments in Xem and believe the hype you created within yourself. It’s been said that Xem will amplify You and everything you bring into the Work of Xem, and it is always advisable to truthfully evaluate everything you are experiencing when approaching the Self ahead of the Self, hence the inclusion of the Ma’at imagery in the Xem Magus’ workings.

    Another problem I find in Xem is the never ending horizon chase that can consume the individual to the point of obsession, his or her world could be crumbling around them but that horizon is constantly being sought after, ignoring the present and dealing with life as it is. Sometimes people get so fixated on the future, the “Wait until I’m….(fill in the blank) then you’ll see” kind of mentality is a very real threat when attempting Xeper ir Xem that you don’t take the time to build a solid foundation in the present for the future structure to reside upon.

    I think Xem was a good answer to, “ok then what” to Dr. Aquinos’ Xeper, i.e. To Become. Another question that should be answered is still very similar, “ok then what”? You Became the Self ahead of the Self, now what are you going to do with it?
     
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    Very well done and explained..thank you!
     
  5. Demogorgos

    Demogorgos Magus Ka Xem

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    Dear All,

    It is wish that my words find you all well.

    I am the High Priest of Anubis. Since I see a lot of speculations in this thread, let me explain what this Order is about.

    The Aeon of Set has succumbed and the Temple of Set is no longer a functional organization under the Aegis of the Prince of Darkness. To understand why, first we have to define Function. Aeons and their corresponding organizations fulfil a Function in the spiritual development of humanity. When the Era of Satan came into being in 1966CE, the Aeon of Horus had fulfilled it's purpose, it's Function in the Precession of Aeons. When the Aeon of Set came into being in 1975CE, the Era of Satan had fulfilled it's purpose, it's Function in the Precession of Aeons. Now that the core of the founding Priesthood of the Order of Anubis – who are all Magi of Xem - has crystallized, the Aeon of Set and the Temple have fulfilled their purpose, their Function.

    Xeper

    The first Purpose or Function of the Aeon of Set was to make the Word Xeper intelligible to mankind. Now, what is Xeper? Xeper is an Egyptian hieroglyph that means "Come into Being". In non-sectarian terms Xeper can be defined as follows: Xeper is the willful and conscious effort of the human psyche to capitalize on the "to be" quality of itself. The Word Xeper Originates from the psyche, it Speaks to the psyche, it is Worked both By and For the psyche. It is utterly interested in its own self-perpetuation and thus is Satanic in (non)-nature. As Xeper is the word of the willful (as opposed to random) evolution of the psyche, "Remanifest" is both the process and the result of Xeper. Xeper is, thus, the dynamic and never-ending process of Becoming - the process of eternal expansion of Being as opposed to the expansion of mere knowledge and skills. Being encompasses the whole of what oneself is at any instant in his or her existence: the total of his or her knowledge, intellect and internal and external perception. Xeper first is started and then fueled by the practice of Greater Black Magic or GBM.

    The second Purpose or Function of the Aeon of Set was to give Xeper a direction, a goal. This goal is implicit in he Word Xem, Uttered by the Magus Ronald Keith Barrett. The complete formula of the Aeon of Set would thus be “Xeper ir Xem”. However, Tos, or their leaders to be more precise, deny this vehemently and have relegated the Word “Xem” and all it concerns to the past as a “curious incident” at best and a “nightmare” at worst. In fact they CANNOT Understand "Xem" because Xem does away with the Aeonic Paradigm. By their attitude they have become an obstacle themselves for their Function and by this, through Mandate of the Prince of Darkness, they have been relieved from from their Function and this Function has been passed on to, and inherited by, the Order of Anubis which is currently the only earthly vehicle that operates under the true Mandate of the Prince of Darkness.

    (continued in Part 2)
     
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  6. Demogorgos

    Demogorgos Magus Ka Xem

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    (continued from Part I)

    Xem

    Xem is by definition an advanced State of Being. Xem is a higher State of Being which only the serious Seeker can achieve. The initiate who achieves Xem will have the qualities of a Magus Vº. Although Xem is a recognizable state which may be achieved only after one becomes a member of the Priesthood of Anubis, Xem is not necessarily a degree.

    The aspiring Magician has to have a good grasp of Xeper before he or she can undertake their Quest. It is through Xeper that an Initiate may recognize Xem.

    Xem does away with the Æonic paradigm. Within the Æonic paradigm, a Magus Vº was an Initiate who Uttered a Word that either brought into Being a new Æon or Era (in the case of the Magus Anton Szander LaVey of the Church of Satan whose Word Indulgence was the Word of the Era of Satan) or enhanced the Æon wherein the Magus/Maga Uttered the Word (an example of this would be the Word “Remanifest” Uttered by Magus James Lewis within the Æon of Set). The Xem Magus is beyond, and not confined to, the Æonic paradigm.

    With the Uttering of the Word Xem the “Majesty of Set” has literally faded. For this reason the Order of Anubis has Come into Being. True Understanding of Xem cannot be attained within the Æon of Set wherein the Word Xem was Uttered. Once the Magus Barrett understood this, he saw himself forced to leave the Temple of Set and abandon his Function as High Priest of Set, aware that the paradigm of Xem could not be grasped by those initiates “confined” within the Æon of Set, nor within any Æon for that matter. The Xem Magus/Maga Understands all Æonic Words from all the Æons and Era. This is not unlike the Perspective of the Ipsissimus VIº, the highest attainable degree within the Æonic paradigm. The Ipsissimus VIº cannot, however, gaze further than the confines of the Æon wherein he has attained his degree.

    Xem must be recognized as a desirable State of Being, wilfully chosen as a step of one's Xeper, accurately perceived by the initiate, and earnestly worked towards because Xem does not occur by accident.

    Xem is attained through an Initiatory Quest. Each initiate must define his own Question, and must Quest for the Answer. Just as in Alchemy the initiate himself is transformed upon creation of the Philosopher's Stone, so too is the initiate transformed to Xem upon resolution of or during his Quest by his Work with his Personal Word.

    The Question and the Quest are individual. Initiates may occasionally share a Question, but more often their Quests will each be unique. This is because we are individuals, Wilfully individualistic, and Growing more so as we Xeper. The Question must be critically and vitally important to this unique individual, and the Quest will reflect his or her individuality.

    The Question and the Quest will eventually result in the definition and Work with a Personal Word of the personal choice of the Initiate. This Word defines and reflects the unique Personal Understanding of the Process of Xeper of the Initiate. The Initiate achieves Xem by the Work with a Personal Word that will then converge with Xem. Thus the Uttering of such a Personal Word will result, if the Work is successful, in the Uttering of Xem.

    The Order of Anubis

    Why "Anubis"? Anubis is the most perfect archetype for Initiation that exists, since True Initiation is a Process of both Transformation and Destruction. The 2 Functions of Anubis, Anpu – The Opener of the Way – and Wepwawet – The Destroyer of the Path – form a very powerful matrix for Initiation. Since True Initiation cannot happen without a convergence of the Self with the Self of the Prince of Darkness, we can consider the Form or First Principle of Anubis as Initiatory Aspects of the same Prince of Darkness. The True Form of Anubis is not understood by modern Egyptology, since it had become corrupted as early as the II Dynasty and modern scholars lack the Inner Eye of Understanding of the Initiate, which basically limits them to rational apprehensions only.

    The Order of Anubis defines a goal for Xeper, that to Xeper towards, or into, Xem. Xem marks the beginning of an Unlimited State of Being.

    The Order of Anubis exists for 4 reasons:

    1> It is the Will of the Prince of Darkness that the objective or goal of Xeper is Xem and that this Quest should be formalized within an organization without prejudices against Xem, like our predecessor has. Basically, Xeper, the Word of Set, is only half of the paradigm of initiation through Xeper, which is the Willed conscious evolution and expansion of Being. The complete formula is "Xeper ir Xem" which means "Come into Being towards Xem". Those who do not pursue this goal, honestly, are wasting their time in the Order of Anubis because they won't progress.

    2> The Need for providing a space for Personal Initiation. What is Personal Initiation? Personal Initiation refers to the fact that each Initiate must develop his or her own way or manner to practice the Black Arts and that he or she must Work with the Archetypes in a personal and unique way that is tailored to his or her specific needs. For this purpose the Order of Anubis will provide intellectual and magical tools. These will be exactly that: tools. What the Initiate will construct or create with these tools will depend exclusively on the Will of the latter. The group phenomenon is a secondary aspect in the Order of Anubis, what we promote above all is Personal Work. The forums of the Order are a medium to share experiences and ideas, but with the only purpose of serving as an impetus for the initiation of each Initiate that partakes in them. The Work is ultimately up to the individual that Quests for the common objective of the LHP: the deification of the Self. We do not impose rules or methods for the how and when of the initiation. What we do guard zealously is to make sure that our Initiates understand what Archetypes are: Ideal models that explain how the Universe works. An archetype is a supreme Form, an ideal prototype of certain occurrences that manifest themselves in the subjective and objective universes. The Initiate is free to Work with these Archetypes as he or she desires. Each of us is a world of it's own and for some of us full-flung rituals with lots of paraphernalia work best while for others small ceremonies with minimal decorum in which, more than anything, the Will is exercised in it's purest form give the best results. The basic rule is this one: If it works for you, it is valid.

    3> The Need to break with the Aeonic paradigm. In the Aeonic paradigm, the most advanced State of Being that an Initiate can attain is that of Magister Templi. The occurrence of Magi witin the Aeonic paradigm is of a special nature, and only serves for either the creation of a new Aeon or the enhancement of an existing Aeon. This basically signifies that the Xeper of initiates that confine themselves to any Aeon will be limited to the Understanding of a Magister Templi. Within any Aeon, the Magister Templi are the Guardians of the particular Aeon and they do not seek evolution beyond that degree, nor can they since the appearance of a Magus depends on the Will and Purpose of the Prince of Darkness for the Aeon wherein the Initiate "moves" him or herself. The paradigm of Xem, however, allows any initiate - through his or her effort, Work and Will - to aspire to the State of Being of a Magus and beyond. Xem does not limit the aspirations of the initiate in any way, unlike the Aeonic paradigm does due to it's nature. As a consequence, in the Order of Anubis we not only allow, but we in fact promote the Work with a Personal Word of his or her personal choice to give form and direction to their initiation by each Initiate. This is in consequence with the True Left Hand Path. The Work with a Personal Word is in fact a requirement to Come into Being towards Xem. To each Initiate his or her own Word!

    4> Once that various initiates had attained the State of Being of Xem magus, these organized themselves to provide an environment in which more Xem Magi may Come into Being. This environment is the Order of Anubis. As I explained earlier, it is obvious that a Xem Magus cannot function - nor exist for that matter - within the Aeonic paradigm.

    Please receive my best wishes for you well-being and Coming into Being.

    Xeper ir Xem.

    The Xem Magus Ankh Ka Inpu

    High Priest of Anubis
     
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    Very good explanation and well articulated Demogorgos. Thank you for finding the time to post here in the forum.

    Valor.
     
  8. Demogorgos

    Demogorgos Magus Ka Xem

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    Dear All,

    I forgot to mention that we do not have any relationship with the Temple of Set nor do we wish to be regarded as Setians. The current Xem Magi, however, have all been long-time initiates of the ToS. Like stated in my previous post, the Order of Anubis rejects the whole Aeonic paradigm and regards itself beyond the confines of it. We do however acknowledge the Work of Michael Aquino and others, as we do acknowledge the Work of both Anton Szander LaVey and Aleister Crowley as forerunners of the Order of Anubis.

    I just wanted to state this, since I posted this thread into the "Setian Dir".

    Regards,

    Xeper ir Xem.

    The Xem Magus Demogorgos

    High Priest of Anubis
     
  9. Demogorgos

    Demogorgos Magus Ka Xem

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    Dear aa_nerut,

    What you sum up, is what people have said about Xem who lack the most important insight: That Xem is a Higher State of Being that marks the start of an unlimited State of Being. Furthermore Xem cannot and may not be explained. This may sound weird and confusing, but as a living example of the fact that Xem can be attained I can tell you that it is much more than what there has been said about Xem by the many people who never attained it. Xem is attained through an Initiatory Quest. Each initiate must define his own Question, and must Quest for the Answer. Just as in Alchemy the initiate himself is transformed upon creation of the Philosopher's Stone, so too is the initiate transformed to Xem upon resolution of or during his Quest by his Work with his Personal Word. This is the only way to attain Xem.

    Furthermore Xem must be recognized as a desirable State of Being, wilfully chosen as a step of one's Xeper, accurately perceived by the initiate, and earnestly worked towards because Xem does not occur by accident. Xem has a lot to do with Ma'at indeed, as the State of Being that is Xem unveils Ma'at in all her - sometimes horrific - aspects. This is the reason why Xem Work is dangerous. If the Initiate attains Xem but cannot fathom or accept the Truth of it, a personal drama of self-destruction will be the terrifying consequence. One has to be careful with what one desires, because sometimes desires are fulfilled... :devil:

    The Self ahead of Self can only really be Understood by Xem Magi. Trying to explain it is like trying to explain the color red to a person that was born blind. The lack of context is too huge for understanding by those who do not have attained the Xem State of Being.

    Please receive my best wishes for your continued well-being and Coming into Being.

    Best regards,

    Xeper ir Xem.

    The Xem magus Demogorgos

    High Priest of Anubis
     
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    The Word Xem has always been a fascinating subject for me after studying the Keys of Xem and Magister Menschel's analysis of Xem in the Ruby Tablet. There is also a new philosophy being developed by a Magister in the Temple of Set which he calls (Greek) "Entelecheia"= Completion or Self-Completion. His magical formulae is "Xeper and Remanifest toward Entelecheia" My question is if the Goal is to perpetually Xeper and Remanifest can one ever achieve Self-Completion? It would seem to me to be an eternal quest, an eternal journey. To me, Entelecheia seems to answer the question of what comes after the Self ahead of the Self?

    All that aside, I would consider myself an AlXemist and the Form Anubis is one of the primary Neteru that I have Worked with on a Magical level for many years. However, I have been and will always be an Initiate of the Majesty of Set. But I do welcome the Anubian High Priest to the forum.:bat:

    Hail, Anubis!

    Xeper em Ma'at.
    /Adramelek\
     
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  11. Demogorgos

    Demogorgos Magus Ka Xem

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    Dear Adramelek,

    I wish my words find you well.

    The Promise of Xeper is that, once the Process of Coming into Being is started, it will be a never-ending journey. This is implicit for Xem as well. I am familiar with the Work you mention and have had the honor of meeting Magister Ware during a Conclave when I was still affiliated with the Temple. Concerning the fact that you Work with Set, that's fine. Set is a valid Avatar of the Prince of Darkness to Work with, and within the Order of Anubis there are several Initiates that Work with the Set Form of the Princeps. The stance however that Set is the only valid Form to Work with the Prince of Darkness is BS from my Perspective. For your information, I Work with Lucifer myself, for that is the Form of the Prince of Darkness with which I resonate most.

    You mention the Book of Opening the Way and it's Keys. I'm very familiar with these Keys, as I just finished rewriting them in a non-sectarian fashion (meaning stripping them of the aeonic gobbledygook) and I am in the process of writing the Keys that are still missing.

    I have Worked with Ma'at since my Initiation started, and my Personal Word - that converged with Xem and ultimately made me a Xem Magus - is in fact the Word of Ma'at and this Word is Perspective. The hieroglyphic for "Perspective" is "shnw". It is interesting that you use the formula "Xeper em Ma'at", my own Working formula for years was "Xeper ir Ma'at". Most interesting. ;) A part of me will always remain Setian, as I have been affiliated for 9 years with the Temple. My current Perspective rejects the notion of Aeons as unnecessary nostalgia though, as I explained at length in another post. Of course I have Worked with Anubis and his Functions as well, and the Word of Anubis is in fact "Synthesis", for your information. I prefer to refer to the Neterw with the more accessible and non-sectarian term Archetype, because that's what they ultimately are. Some of the Egyptian Archetypes are aspects of the mechanical Universe and others are aspects of the Prince of Darkness as the Ageless Consciousness of this Universe of which the human consciousness is but a tiny spark.

    You call yourself an AlXemist but somehow give the idea that your Work would be incompatible with that of the Order because you "have been and will always be an Initiate of the Majesty of Set". In the Order we don't have a preferred Avatar of the Prince of Darkness. The Form of the Princeps with which one wants to Work is of the decision of the Initiate, not that of the Order. And that's the way it should be in an LHP-based organization. What we do expect though, is that affiliates of our Order pursue Xem as the goal in their Initiation.

    I thank you for your most warm welcome.

    Please receive my best wishes for your continued well-being and your Coming into Being towards Xem.

    Best regards,

    Xeper ir Xem.

    The Xem Magus Demogorgos

    High Priest of Anubis
     
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    Dear Demogorgos,

    All of what you say is most interesting. I singled out the above quote of yours because I am in total agreement with you on this (you might want to check out my last post on the "Satan as a Force or Current" thread in the Satanism DIR). Even though the Egyptian Set is my personal chosen Form of the Dark Prince He/It is but only one of the many reflections of the Powers of Darkness; Satan, Lucifer, Anubis, Ma'at, Prometheus, the list goes on and on, are all, to me, symbolic Magical reflections of differing aspects of the Dark Archon, and yes, as you stated others are reflections of certain functions of the mechanical universe.

    I would also enjoy discussing further your ideas on Ma'at, Perspective, and Synthesis for isn't the Quest for Xeper in a sense a Hegelian one?

    Xeper em Ma'at= Become the Truth of your own Being.
    /Adramelek\
     
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    Demogorgos Magus Ka Xem

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    Dear Adramelek,

    I would be delighted to discuss this further with you, but not on a public forum. Please send me an email, and we'll take it from there.

    Best regards,

    Xeper ir Xem.

    The Xem Magus Demogorgos

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    Dear Adramelek,

    I wish my words find you well.

    Xeper is definitely not a Quest, but a Journey. It is a Willful Act and a continuous conscious effort and Process to Come into Being. Xeper is the willful and conscious effort of the human psyche to capitalize on the "to be" quality of itself. The Word Xeper Originates from the psyche, it Speaks to the psyche and it is Worked both By and For the psyche. It is utterly interested in its own self-perpetuation and thus is Satanic in (non-)nature. As Xeper is the word of the willful (as opposed to random) evolution of the psyche, "Remanifest" is both the process and the result of Xeper. Xeper is thus a conscious decision and a Willed effort. Remanifestation is the (repetitive) result of that Willed Effort. Sort of the milestones of awareness within the Process itself. The Quest itself is actually to see to where or what your Xeper leads you. I always pursued Xem because that was the Answer to my personal Question. "To where or what should my Xeper lead me?". My own personal Quest became that for Xem, for I could not figure out any other answer. From my current Perspective, Xeper can only lead to three possible outcomes: Utter madness, mutation or Xem. The decision to pursue Xeper, one's Coming into Being, is certainly a Hegelian one, since it is the apex of Free Will to commit oneself to the enormous Task known as the Great Work by means of Xeper.

    Indulgence is the impetus, Thelema the road map, Xeper the (never-ending) Journey and - for Black Scavengers like myself - Xem the (first) Destination.

    Please receive my continued best wishes for your well-being and Coming into Being.

    Best regards,

    Xeper ir Xem.

    The Xem Magus Demogorgos

    High Priest of Anubis
     
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    I beg to differ. We are quite well, have a large membership with many published authors and a well received podcast and active website. The Order of Anubis who claim not to be Setians while posting in the Setian forum here don't have any of that. Your website has been under construction for years now and you "Magus" Demogorgos are a formerly expelled Adept of the ToS.

    In my 18+ years with the Temple I've found that those who chase after Xem have always failed so I take that into account and let Xem lie in rest.

    Xeper,
    Magister Robert Adams
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  16. Demogorgos

    Demogorgos Magus Ka Xem

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    Dear Mr. Adams,

    I hope my words find you well.

    1> Of course you beg to differ, that's why you are a Setian and confined to the Aeon of Set. As such, however, you simply cannot understand what Xem is nor what it is about for the reasons I exposed elsewhere. There is nothing wrong with that. ToS is what it is. The OA is what it is. Besides, as Aeons are spiritual currents that exist to enslave the souls of men, they actually remain in existence as long as there is at least *one* human left that abides their Law. So succumbed would not be the exact term as long as Setians exist. A whole other issue is that of an organization being the authentic vehicle of the Will of the Prince of Darkness, and thus being a Functional organization. This is no longer the case concerning the Temple of Set. Form and Function is not only applicable to individuals, but to organizations as well. Again there is nothing wrong with that. Things are simply what they are. No need to turn things into a p¡ssing match. ToS does it's thing, and we do ours.

    2> I was not expelled from ToS, I resigned. There are (ex) Setian Priests that will vouch for that. It's typical of this organization to say that I was expelled. :) In any case, it's academic now.

    3> True, I was an Adept when I resigned. I focussed on my Work, instead of brown-nosing for a black cookie. That's what True Initiates do, you see. It became clear for me that pursuing Xem excluded me almost automatically for the Setian (administrative?) Priesthood. Instead of making an issue of this, I defended and Worked for the Temple for years, doing what I had to do and pursuing my own Work with - may I add - great success. When the time came that ToS became an obstacle for my Initiation, I left. The Authority of my Recognition as a Xem Magus (not an Aeonic Magus Vº, for that's a completely different thing, as explained elsewhere) is, again, completely beyond your Understanding, and also academic at this point. For your information though, since I don't want to be rude and understand your complete lack of apprehension, it takes a Xem Magus to recognize another Xem Magus.

    4> There exist 3 Xem Magi at this moment, and more will Come into Being in the future. Those that you knew who Quested for Xem were bound to fail, as they tried to do so within the Aeonic paradigm.

    Please receive my best wishes for your continued well-being and your Coming into Being.

    Best regards,

    Xeper ir Xem.

    The Xem Magus Demogorgos

    High Priest of Anubis
     
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    To be fair: Demogorgos only posted in the Setian forum because somebody created a thread asking about the Order of Anubis. He was answering a call not unlike when Setians were answering their call in the Satanism boards. Ultimately we were granted our own board.

    Thank you.
     
  18. Valor

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    Why is it that so many have failed persuing Xem? Anyone:
     
  19. Adramelek

    Adramelek Setian
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    It is my experience when I was an Initiate of the ToS, that there were only a small handful of Setians who were actively studying the writings about Xem but only for the benefit of gaining further knowledge. I can't recall any Setian of any Degree who was ever actively persuing Xem as an Initiatory quest. For the most part, in the Temple of Set, Xem is a non-active Word.

    I must agree with Magister Adams, the Temple and Aeon of Set are very much Alive and ever Evolving. The Order of Anubis does seem quite interesting, and I wish them all the best, however, again, my eternal allegience is to the Prince of Darkness in His/Its Form of the Majesty of Set.

    For ever shall I Quest for the Infernal Graal of the Truth of Being.

    Walhalla!
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    /Adramelek\
     
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  20. ktf

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    There are interesting correlations here.

    The ToS was started by members of the Church of Satan, who had been involved for about 9 years, who quit to form a new organization. Those who left the CoS claimed that Anton LaVey had lost his "infernal mandate". They also claimed that the Age of Satan had succumed to the Aeon of Set and that there new organization was now the group with the Prince of Darknesses seal of approval.

    Now we see the Order of Anubis. Started by former members of the ToS who claim that the "infernal mandate" has now passed on to them.

    It would seem that the Order of Anubis has just as much a claim to legitimacy as the ToS. In fact the Order of Anubis uses a similar claim to legitimacy that was once used by Dr. Aquino when he founded the ToS.

    How does one judge such things? Until someone can produce the Prince of Darkness, set him down in a chair across from me to share a good cigar and a whisky, and have him tell me who holds his mandate I will reserve judgement.

    However I will say this: I love that Demogorgos and his fellow magicians and former ToS members started something new. I salute the courage to break from the old and blaze a new trail. I admire the same spirit in Crowley, Mr. G., LaVey, Aquino, and Flowers. These men refused to be followers, they refused to be members, they struck out and created the new. I find Magister Adam's critique a bit weak. The ToS has been around for over 30 years. They started out small just like everyone else and grew with time. I imagine the Order of Anubis has been around for less than 5 years. In my opinion that is not long enough a time to make a critique based on organizational structure or size. And really, how relevant are such measurements when considering a LHP Initiatory School anyway?

    To Demogorgos: Please continue to contribute.
     
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