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Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by questfortruth, Jul 17, 2021.

  1. questfortruth

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    FORMALISM OF SPECIES and SUB-SPECIES

    the Theory of Evolution is parasitic on Creationism. But recall the title of Darwin's book: the origin of species. Thus, the Last Universal Common Ancestor is the original species (however the number of individuals of this very first species is one: LUCA), then came sub-species, then subsub-species, then subsubsub-species, etc. Therefore, the species of human is one single species but has subspecies: black people, white people, yellow people, red people.

    Here are two sub-species of the species called FISH:
    1. tuna,
    2. cod.
    That does not mean, that tuna is more privileged than cod. Same is with people.

    According to the Theory of Evolution:
    bears are from bear-species.
    People are from people-species.
    Fish is from fish-species.

    Species are not individuals. There are many individual people in human species.

    The mistake is to say: "But there are many species of bears and over 30,000 species of fish."
    No. Individuals of fish species. Recall the title of Darwin's book "origin of species".
    There are many species. Humans are from one species, fish is from another species.
    All 30000 fish is from one single species. God is the most simple being. Be as simple as God. I am very simple. So, trust my opinion. The 30 000 species of fish are in fact sub-species!!! The main species of fish is simply called FISH. The subspecies have different known titles, for example, tuna and cod.

    THE CONTRADICTION:

    The Theory of Evolution says that the initial number of individuals of a given species must exceed 40. Otherwise, the species is very likely to die out. For example, the initial number of people must exceed 40. Not just Adam and Eve.

    But the Theory of Evolution says that all life on Earth originated from the Last Universal Common Ancestor. It is a single being, not 40 or more beings.

    And how probable without God-Creator, that the number of the very first life forms exceeded 40 (which have pop out of the mud at a single moment)?
     
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    These are determined based on the criteria of classification known as taxonomy. However, even taxonomist recognize that the groups known colloquially as bears and fish are not composed of a single species. Where do you get your information you use to make these posts? Have you ever heard of the discipline of biology and all its sub-disciplines?
    I haven't seen that in the theory of evolution. What is your source for this? I don't think we know what the minimum number of individuals is that is required to maintain a species. I would imagine it varies depending on the species, fecundity, the genetic variation of the minimum population, the sex ratio and so forth. It probably would not matter how many individual mammals you have if they are all male, but that would not be an issue for bacteria. What about viruses. You are going to need a host population too.

    You need to think these things through a lot more than is indicated by your posts.
     
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    Aren't you at a university? Have you considered taking a couple of basic biology classes and maybe something in logic?
     
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    bears are from bear-species.
    People are from people-species.
    Fish is from fish-species.
     
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    Actually the common ancestry does not indicate a single organism, but rather a group that branched off whom shared the same mutations, and survived its environment.
     
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    What does that mean? What are you saying?

    Are you saying there is only one species of bear and one species of fish?????????

    I am not disputing that people are a single species. Homo sapiens.
     
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    Dear Christian, Bible and Church is enough for salvation.
     
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    Yes. It would be a hypothetical population of ancestral life.
     
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    The Theory of Evolution says that the initial number of individuals of a given species must exceed 40. Otherwise, the species is very likely to die out. For example, the initial number of people must exceed 40. Not just Adam and Eve.
     
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    Species are not individuals. There are many individual people in human species.
     
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    What does that have to do with your topic or my questions?
     
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    Where does it say that population size in the theory. Wouldn't that be a question for genetics. Two humans are not enough diversity to sustain a population. I grew up in the Ozarks, I can tell you that for a fact.
     
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    But there are many species of bears and over 30,000 species of fish.
     
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    And how probable without God-Creator, that the number of the very first life forms exceeded 40 (which have pop out of the mud at a single moment)?
     
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    No. Individuals of fish species. Recall the title of Darwin's book "origin of species".
    There are many species. Humans are from one species, fish is from another species.
    All 30000 fish is from one single species.
     
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    How do you determine probabilities based on the presence or absence of something that cannot determined to exist, a believed in entity with no objective evidence to support that belief? I believe in God, but it is beyond my reckoning how you would plug my belief into a probability analysis about the outcome of speciation.
     
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    God is most simple being. Be as simple as God. I am very simple. So, trust my opinion.
     
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    No. There are probably trillions of individual fish. There are over 30,000 described species. An individual fish is in a species. But not every individual is in the same species. Species are not normally composed of single individuals.

    Do you eat tuna and cod? Do you think that meat is harvested from a single fish? It must be huge and they are keeping it alive while pieces are hacked off for our lunch. Do you grasp any of this?
     
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