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On-duty cop ‘caught on camera shooting dead a black man he kidnapped and forced into his squad car’

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Cooky, Jan 11, 2021.

  1. Fool

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    Do your own observation.
    Its too obvious for even the most biased to miss.
     
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    I thought I just agreed with you, but I guess you
    meant all cops.
    And that is not extremist?
     
  4. Revoltingest

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    I'm sure you're thinking of the Australian gal shot in Minnesota.
    This illustrates the problem with disparate coverage of race
    in police shootings, ie, that people have a very distorted
    view of the reality.
    Let's consider...
    Shootings By Police In The United States Of America By Race, Gender, And Age
    Shootings By Police In The United States Of America By Race, Gender, And Age
    Demographic Share of Americans Shot By Police in 2015
    Males 95.8%
    Mentally Ill 25.3%
    White 50.0%
    African American 26.0%
    Hispanic 17.4%
    Other or Unknown Race or Ethnicity 6.6%
    30 to 44 years old 35.8%

    Looking at the above, we see that half (by race) of all those
    shot by cops are white. We may safely assume that most
    cops are white. It follows that it's very likely that most of
    those whites were shot by white cops. Would you agree?
    If so, then it extremely far from being rare...it's the norm.

    It also points out that gender bias is much worse than
    racial bias, with men being killed at a rate of 20:1.
     
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    race is an issue; when those wearing uniforms treat people differently. those who swear to uphold the law are wolves in sheeps clothing.


    how do you expect the law to work; if itself is mentoring, fostering, modeling an unlawful society?


    do as i say and not as i do?


    HYPOCRISY
     
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    Gotta get the cops to carrying more of those guns that can be planted to justify the shooting if women are going to be equally represented.
     
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    I agree completely.
    But I oppose media covering it with the agenda of
    creating the impression that only blacks are the
    victims & only whites are the perps.
    This masks the larger problem of unjust police
    violence. It's bigger than race. The gender disparity
    is far bigger than race. To make it solely about
    whites being racist is to ignore most of the problem.
    Whuh?
     
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  8. Revoltingest

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    Don't suggest affirmative action to them.
    (They might like the idea.)
     
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    And that's just the killings.
    If we could add the harrassment, rapes, assaults, wrongly detained, and intimidation we'd still the police are far too corrupt, oppressive, and violent to merely dismiss them as racist. It's there, but as a part of something that more closely resembles Mccarthyism or the Gestapo the way they see enemies and threats lurking in every shadow.
     
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    I recall studies showing that the problem of less-than-shooting
    abuse of blacks is even worse (statistically). This was from the
    Harvard guy who found no racial disparity in shootings (after
    adjusting for cause).
     
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    the lack of empathy and compassion is the overall problem. using the excuse of holier than thou is the problem because it's based on tribalism or familalism.


    so if you have a corrupt leader chances are you're going to have a corrupt community, family, church, group. because the leader will allow corruption to flourish based on their idea of what lawful and what isn't
     
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    There is indeed a big gender bias against men in the justice system who are also punished more severely as they are perceived as "more dangerous". It's also important to note that men are also over represented in the cateory of violent criminals, though not 20 to 1 more like 8 to 1 which seems to imply a certain amount of bias against men. I suspect it's due to the fact police officers perceive male suspect as inherently more threatening than female suspect even if they are equally violent thus prompting a more violent reponse. The same phenomenon could also explain the difference in treatment of black men who are perceived as more threatening and danerous than white men with the same kind of behavior.

    Yes, the majority of police shootings are against white men and the majority of police shooting are considered as fair and defensible and not really news worthy. As mentionned before, most police shooting aren't reported. What's reported is suspicious or downright criminal use of force and that touches racial minorities much more often than white people though the example of that Australia born white woman who was shot and killed by a black police officer stand out for making international news and being a bit of an odity in the style.
     
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    What I truly do not understand is cops killin blacks is pretty much the only focus amd anything else is just to not get it.
    But Native reserves have long served as the personal shooting galleries of cops and federal agents.
    Women have been raped roadside. Detained, coerced, and raped.
    White males have had absurd and confusing commands barked and them and are executed at the slightest hint on failure to comply.
    The mentally ill often executed, especially those with profound cases (dementia, psychosis, and schizophrenia especially).
    Thinking racism against blacks is "the issue" and once solved will make them better is horribly misguided. Sort of like how defunding them is a typical misguided American way of thinking in the belief money alone will fix the problems.
    We have a system that can only be fixed by rebuilding it from the ground up and overhauling it from top to bottom.
     
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    It should be 24 hour breaking news coverage on CNN by now. Police Chief is giving a public address at what time?

    ...Oh wait. None of that is happening..? o_O
     
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    If abuse & killing of blacks were reduced to the same
    rates as for whites, this would be a miserable failure.
     
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    That's how some communities are. The better ones don't. I know what I strive to be like, and it's not following a path of corruption, regardless of leader.
     
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    The danger mostly come when a leader or a community develops a warped view of what corruption is a bit like in the fable about the emperor's new clothes.
     
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    OK, point taken.

    There's a lesson here for all the peeps on the left, right, up, down and elsewhere: news corporations are businesses peddling bespoke reality for a consumer demographic.

    They don't say: well, here's an event in the world and here we are reporting it for you, Joe Public. They say: here's an event packaged in a way you, our viewers, want it wrapped. Hey, what are those racists/wokes like? Also, buy the following things which our data wizards say are tracking well on your brand of social media. Jingle.

    You want a free and fair press? Probably get it to hell away from multinational conglomerates and comic-book-villain-esque billionaires.
     
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    Strong words --- but I can't help but agree.
     
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    What is the evidence?
     
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