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If I revise my statement to the following, in your judgement, is it true?
"... Brahman includes all potential forms, but is not Omni-Form itself."
then brahman isn't all pervading. all form = omni + form
the all doesn't have a cause but it can be itself transformative
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then brahman, the absolute isn't all pervading
Because Brahman is all that exists, Brahman has to be omniform itself. Brahman is concepts, existence, form, formlessness. It's hard for the human mind to get its head wrapped around. sarvam khalvidam brahma, "all this [that exists] is Brahman".
MonkeyFire
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Change would change one last time and then become permenance. It only must change once to end suffering and evil. If it kept changing forever pleasure would be gone one day.
Mahavakyas: Great Contemplations of Advaita Vedanta
also, the constant changing of form would make forms temporal, illusory, and thus brahman is also formless. not this form, not that form, because both have contrast.
buddhism says suffering arises with attachment to a form because there is only impermanence. forms are impermanent, illusory, temporal.
MonkeyFire
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How could there be pleasure if everything must change. The buddha also said pleasure musnt be temporary.
forms change the action of love doesn't have to.
Sarva (inflected to sarvam in the accusative) is the Sanskrit word for "all".
Khalu + idam = khalvidam (rules of sandhi, joining) "truly/verily this".
Brahma (nominative neuter) "[is] Brahman" (the verb "to be" in the present tense is understood).
Literally "All verily this [is] Brahman". From Chāndogya Upaniṣad 3.14.1
Sarvam Sanskrit Dictionary for Spoken Sanskrit
Khalu Sanskrit Dictionary for Spoken Sanskrit
Idam idam -- this -- Sanskrit Dictionary
Brahma Brahman - Wikipedia
MonkeyFire
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Can a form change then return again? Groundhogs believe in forever but infinity is cast aside.
the action doesn't change, the form does. the action enlivens the form counts for no thing.
Brahman is formless, placeness, timeless and actionless. It has no handles which would enable anyone to say anything about it at all.
नेति नेति -- "Not this Not this" is all that can be said about it.
This is why we imbue Brahman with features -- gunas -- so we can, at least, talk about it. But to do so violates the whole concept of Brahman.
Yet we silly Hindus continue to try to discuss Brahman and explain Reality through innumerable bewildering scriptures and byzantine commentaries.
The Buddhists, at least have the sense just to stay silent about the whole metaphysical brouhaha.
नेति नेति -- "Not this Not this" is all that can be said about it.
This is why we imbue Brahman with features -- gunas -- so we can, at least, talk about it. But to do so violates the whole concept of Brahman.
Yet we silly Hindus continue to try to discuss Brahman and explain Reality through innumerable bewildering scriptures and byzantine commentaries.
The Buddhists, at least have the sense just to stay silent about the whole metaphysical brouhaha.
neti, neti. no form doesn't qualify as no action; otherwise lila is a moot point. otherwise gita karma is a moot point.
brahman isn't caused to change but causes changes of itself. god doesn't change but causes changes of itself.
osiris is dissolved and assimilated as his own creation, horus.
the lamb slain from the foundation, formation of the universe, christ in all and as all.
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