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Older men: beware of testosterone supplements for fatigue.

Discussion in 'Men's Issues' started by Jonathan Bailey, Jan 29, 2020.

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    Your doctor should have discussed this with you, certainly. And kudos to you for taking the time to look up the possible side effects and alternative solutions.
     
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    She didn't forcibly inject you or slather gel on you I presume. The choice is yours to have the prescription filled or not. That said, I do agree that other tests should be performed to find out the cause of the low testosterone. One could have hypopituitarism, as I do. The pituitary is not producing the hormones to tell "the boys" to make testosterone. If that is the case, no amount of "natural" treatments will correct hypogonadism (the term for the condition).

    The risks of exogenous testosterone come with blood levels above 600-700 ng/dl. That is the level of a healthy adult male. We're not talking about amounts comparable to the anabolic steroids used by bodybuilders and strength athletes, and other athletes too. The boys will not shrink at therapeutic dosages. Blood level of T above that for a long period of time can increase the risk of heart attack and stroke because of the overproduction of red blood cells. It basically turns your blood into ketchup.

    They'll pry my testosterone gel pump out of my cold dead hands before I give it up willingly. It's made too much of a difference for me. I started on it almost 20 years ago. and have had no negative side effects. If you need it, you need it.
     
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    I thought you Yorkshire folk ran out of testosterone during the War of the Roses!
     
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    This is the advice @Jonathan Bailey needs.

    One caveat - item 4 is vitamin D supplements or sunlight. Stick with sunlight. There are possible risks with vitamin D. One risk is related to bowel cancer. There are four types of precancerous colon tumours, and one of them can be accelerated by vitamin D.

    The list of supplements in item 8 is good. I start each day with a smoothie of maca, cacao, ashwagandha, mucuna and pea protein. The Breakfast of Champions ;)

    Everyone I share this mix with is very impressed. Energy, focus, and libido. I could write pages on all the micronutrients it contains, and their synergies. Anyone who wants details can message me.
     
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    There is a naturally occurring variant of caffeine, theacrine, which increases focus without the negative side effects of caffeine. No jitters, no increased heart rate. Also a nice mood elevator in a gentle natural way.
    Apparently methylliberine (Dynamine) is even better, but I haven’t tried it yet.
     
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