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Old phones

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by AT-AT, Aug 28, 2019.

  1. ChristineM

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    Old??? Whats an old smartphone? Ive had mine 5 years and it still does exactly what i want, phone people.
     
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    I tend to be frugal and utilitarian myself. If it can make calls, text, browse the web, take pictures, has GPS nav, and double as a flash light then it suits my needs.
     
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  3. ChristineM

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    Works for me.
     
  4. Shadow Wolf

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    That's what "they" want you to think. Electronic device makers often aren't big into the idea of letting people make their own repairs, so they make them difficult.
     
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    Yup. Even the first smart phones haven't really been around that long. To me, those are still new phones. An old phons is the big brick that rings when you use it to ring someones head.
     
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  6. ChristineM

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    Those old ones make great door stops
     
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  7. ChristineM

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    No problem with old phones, dead battery??? Flip the back off, get the number, buy a new one from Amazon (or other), snap the old one out, new one in... DaDah... New phone ;-)

    I think my old blackberry bold had 4 - dont know why it ate batteries like that.
     
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    I donate them to a local women's shelter ... they can use them.
     
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  9. Shadow Wolf

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    Newer phones require screws come out, and often times the screen has to be removed as well, which means carefully melting the glue to safely remove things without causing heat damage.
     
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  10. ChristineM

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    My long term scheme to beat the phone manufacturers is working out great ,;-)
     
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    I was speaking generally-- someone who is not adept at deconstructing modern electronics will destroy their phone trying to get at the battery.

    Most are glued together in such a way, the mechanical power needed to separate the glue, will also wreck the case, screen and other bits inside.
     
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    Is not mechanical power that's needed but heat. I have a hat gun for it. I've also seen devices you heat up and apply to the phone. That loosens the glue so you can peel things off.
     
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    "flip off the back" only applies to phones older than 2 years or more. The newest are all glued as one piece.

    Blame CrApple for that one: The idea that a Beautiful Form is Primary, even if a lot of function is lost...

    To make the battery accessible to the Great Unwashed (i.e. careless people)? I you must package the battery in a strong container. You must create a cavity in the phone itself that still protects the rest of the phone. And you must create a cover that's removable, but not *that* easy to remove so it won't pop off if dropped.

    To also make the phone ridiculously thin? Well, you cannot do that. Thanks, Steve Jobs-- the assumption that everyone is filthy rich served you so very well...
     
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    Yep. I have done it myself-- replacing batteries that were not designed to be replaced. I've done it for an older Zune mp3 player. I've done it for a Samsung 10" tablet too. I've helped do it for a couple of laptops that were ridiculously thin, and so were also glued.

    The thing is? If you get the heat in the wrong spot? *boom* -- you fried an electronics bit, or ruined the edge of the screen. Or worse... the old battery *can* explode....

    Once again, Thanks, Steve Jobs: Your desire to make things senselessly complex was a resounding success.
     
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    I've never had a phone work flawlessly, much beyond 2 years-- as the memory becomes an issue about that time, the phone begins to run out of "trim" space.

    FLASH memory is destructive. That is, it may be read endless number of times, but to write? Is a destructive process. Manufacturers are getting slightly better at this issue--but.

    It does not behoove them to get too good; the system can tolerate most of the population keeping their phones about a year, before wanting new. If everyone started keeping them longer? The CEO's would have to skip buying the monthly New Luxury Car. Forsooth! They might have to keep one long enough to have the gas tank refilled! We can't have that.
     
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    Yup. It's about as anti-consumer as it gets.
     
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