OK atheists list your sins

[Mock Turtle]

I'm surprised that atheists reflect much on their regrets, as whatever happens is all based on our environment and experiences, so I would have though everything falls in the category of 'it is what it is.

I wonder why you have regrets.

Well surprisingly - perhaps to you - most atheists probably reflect just as much about life and what they do in such as the religious might - perhaps even more so since they have to do more thinking rather than accepting some answers from others. Guilt and shame might be valuable to many if it wasn't such a drag and hindered their future lives. Perhaps it is better just to assimilate experiences and move on. And perhaps forgiveness from others is better too rather than hatred, revenge or ostracism.

We all have regrets since I doubt there is anyone on the planet without any.

 

[Howard Is]

I'm surprised that atheists reflect much on their regrets, as whatever happens is all based on our environment and experiences, so I would have though everything falls in the category of 'it is what it is'.

I wonder why you have regrets.

Yeah, we’re subhuman.
Psychopathic loveless flesh-eating baby rapers.

 

[Mock Turtle]

As only one atheist has addressed 'their sin' I would seem you're just reciting the usual atheist dogma

I probably get that from being amongst the religious too much.

 

[ChristineM]

As an atheist you are not in covenant with God and are therefore not obligated to obey His laws. The only law you are under is the law of sin and death. Which means that you are under the penalty of Adam's transgression and will return to the dust you were made from. God did not tell Adam that he was going to suffer for all eternity but that he would return the dust he was made from.

The only ones who need worry about suffering a second death are those who enter covenant with God for a resurrection from the dead. If they were unfaithful to His covenat then they will die a second death.

Athiest have no need to worry about suffering a second death.

You just don't get it do you? Sin is a religious concept, so not my problem. And everyone dies?

I will return to atoms which will go on to create new life. What's it like for you being made of dead people? Me, i am fine with the fundamental laws of physics.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Most religious people are well aware of there shortcomings but are atheists?

By the way, you have looked at the evidence that seems to indicate that the religious are just as likely to be immoral as the non-religious? Are they so aware that it still fails to motivate their behaviour?

Religion Doesn't Make People More Moral, Study Finds | Live Science

 

[Howard Is]

Most religious people are well aware of there shortcomings but are atheists?

It seems rather disingenuous that you ask others to reveal their shortcomings without doing so yourself.

So give us an example of full disclosure.

What is the most vile sin you have committed ?

 

[Jollybear]

And one of the biggest shortcomings of Christianity is threatening people who dont worship their mythology that they will burn in hell.

I have recieved this threat many times from christians, who at times have also threatened my parents (good christians) because i won't follow religious bullpoop. And have threatened my innocent children with the same fate.

If that's what being a good christian is then feel free to keep it.

Question, if you see a mother and her children walking on a trail and theres a hidden hole up ahead and you know about it and you warn them, do you consider that threatening them?

 

[Wandering Monk]

Most religious people are well aware of there shortcomings but are atheists?

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If a person has any empathy at all, they are well aware of there shortcomings. If they have no empathy, psychologists label this as sociopathic.

But, the reverse is also worth examining. When an atheist acts upon his empathy, he is also not afraid to recognize this as virtuous. Religious folks I know can't abide the idea that humans can be virtuous (most of them are fundies.)

 

[Cooky]

Yeah, we’re subhuman.
Psychopathic loveless flesh-eating baby rapers.

No, I don't mean it that way. Essentially everyone in the world is an atheist at times. It's hard believing in something you've never seen.

...I just find it interesting that Atheists have regrets when we're essentially just products of our environment and experiences. Seems contradictive to hold regrets for the inevidable.

 

[ChristineM]

Question, if you see a mother and her children walking on a trail and theres a hidden hole up ahead and you know about it and you warn them, do you consider that threatening them?

Absolutely not, there is evidence of said hole, it is the humain thing to do

However threatening children with your own wet dreams of burning in in a mythological nightmare takes a true christian

 

[Darkforbid]

It seems rather disingenuous that you ask others to reveal their shortcomings without doing so yourself.

So give us an example of full disclosure.

What is the most vile sin you have committed ?

Well, I'm a known criminal and have taken life on a number of occasions,, you?

 

[Howard Is]

No, I don't mean it that way. Essentially everyone in the world is an atheist at times. It's hard believing in something you've never seen.

...I just find it interesting that Atheists have regrets when we're essentially just products of our environment and experiences. Seems contradictive to hold regrets for the inevidable.

Not at all.
You know what theists and atheists have in common ?
Humanity.

It’s just a question of how you choose to deal with it.

Personally, I think feeling regret or remorse purely because of your own principles and compassion is more praiseworthy than just checking your behaviour against a list because you want a reward - heaven.

Atheists are moral because of backbone, not because they feel a need to do a deal with god to save their sorry a$$es.

 

[Cooky]

Not at all.
You know what theists and atheists have in common ?
Humanity.

It’s just a question of how you choose to deal with it.

Personally, I think feeling regret or remorse purely because of your own principles and compassion is more praiseworthy than just checking your behaviour against a list because you want a reward - heaven.

Atheists are moral because of backbone, not because they feel a need to do a deal with god to save their sorry a$$es.

I wonder why we're incapable of rising above this humanity, in understanding that all our transgressions are inevitable consequences based solely on our environment and experiences... So essentially, nothing is our fault.

I guess it's a natural instinct?

 

[Mock Turtle]

No, I don't mean it that way. Essentially everyone in the world is an atheist at times. It's hard believing in something you've never seen.

...I just find it interesting that Atheists have regrets when we're essentially just products of our environment and experiences. Seems contradictive to hold regrets for the inevidable.

Perhaps because many of us still have a fondness for that old concept - free will - such that we own our mistakes and don't necessarily pass them on, but we might also recognise their origins.

 

[Howard Is]

Well, I'm a known criminal and have taken life on a number of occasions,, you?

Nothing in that league.

I killed a bird and some spiders and lizards when I was a kid.

I did some shoplifting when I was a teenager.

The things I have felt the most shame about were really just personal failures of will, or indulgence in pride or vanity.

I can honestly say that when I face myself honestly, I feel OK.
There is nothing I have done that keeps me awake in anxiety.

Perhaps you have just revealed why forgiveness of sin matters to you, but not to me.

 

[Cooky]

Perhaps so many of us still have a fondness for that old concept - free will - such that we own our mistakes and don't necessarily pass them on, but we might also recognise their origins.

Interesting. I suppose self-improvement is also an instinct, which explains regret, as to recognize something better for ourselves requires understanding what our inferior acts are.

 

[Howard Is]

I wonder why we're incapable of rising above this humanity, in understanding that all our transgressions are inevitable consequences based solely on our environment and experiences... So essentially, nothing is our fault.

I guess it's a natural instinct?

I think we can “rise above this humanity, understanding that all our transgressions are inevitable consequences based solely on our environment and experiences..”

You said that eloquently.

So eloquently that I think that is your genuine view.

It is my view also.

As for “so essentially, nothing is our fault “... No. That is not true IMO.
All of the past has conditioned the present, and created this body, but I still hold myself responsible and accountable for my choices and actions.

 

[shunyadragon]

Well, I'm a known criminal and have taken life on a number of occasions,, you?

A number of occasions?!?!?! It apparently is very much up front that you are NOT aware of your sins and shortcomings to make changes in lifestyle without respect for human life.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Interesting. I suppose self-improvement is also an instinct, which explains regret, as to recognize something better for ourselves requires understanding what our inferior acts are.

I think that is why many fail to improve or even change their behaviour - that they don't see how it affects others or even how it affects themselves - in the long run. Apart from the fact that many suffer from all sorts of issues anyway, which necessarily distorts their thinking and behaviour. Most of my mistakes I would put down to such.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Not at all.
You know what theists and atheists have in common ?
Humanity.

It’s just a question of how you choose to deal with it.

Personally, I think feeling regret or remorse purely because of your own principles and compassion is more praiseworthy than just checking your behaviour against a list because you want a reward - heaven.

Atheists are moral because of backbone, not because they feel a need to do a deal with god to save their sorry a$$es.

You reminded me of this parable: