Oh, that poor "deprived" and "abused" Walmart corporation!

[sooda]

The one in rural Indiana has nothing fresh. Its nearly all boxed and canned and loaded with stuff that just simply will not due for those with dietary restrictions.

That's terrible.. Are they too lazy to get it right?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That's terrible.. Are they too lazy to get it right?

I think there are many factors. Lack of donations (they are constantly running out and unable to keep up with demand), poor dietary norms in the state, poor nutrition education and information, limited access to fresh food for those who aren't poor, and a general lack f caring for those less fortunate (Indiana is one of those states utterly terrified of giving even one cent to someone who didn't earn it).

 

[Stanyon]

I think there are many factors. Lack of donations (they are constantly running out and unable to keep up with demand), poor dietary norms in the state, poor nutrition education and information, limited access to fresh food for those who aren't poor, and a general lack f caring for those less fortunate (Indiana is one of those states utterly terrified of giving even one cent to someone who didn't earn it).

Do you think some of it may be that fruits and vegetables typically have a very limited shelf life and may encourage insects, rodents, etc? Something has to be done with rotting vegetables and fruits also if they are so bad off they may not have the appliances or ability to cook vegetables as they should be prepared. A homeless person with a bag of potatoes, though a great food source the only option may be cooking in the coals of a small fire or using a can as a boiler, both would necessitate the use of an open flame and sufficient fuel to keep it going or eating it raw?

 

[sooda]

I think there are many factors. Lack of donations (they are constantly running out and unable to keep up with demand), poor dietary norms in the state, poor nutrition education and information, limited access to fresh food for those who aren't poor, and a general lack f caring for those less fortunate (Indiana is one of those states utterly terrified of giving even one cent to someone who didn't earn it).

How awful... They surely don't count as "exceptional Americans".

 

[columbus]

Do you think some of it may be that fruits and vegetables typically have a very limited shelf life and may encourage insects, rodents, etc?

I've been involved with a few such food pantries.
A huge part of the problem is that clients of the pantry often don't want healthy foods like that. They strongly prefer the heavily processed crap they'd buy at the store, if they had the money.
Tom

 

[PureX]

I've heard Walmart put the cameras in the stores mainly to catch the underpaid store employees mooching things. Most Walmart shoplifting had come from those store workers on the inside.

They put the cameras up outside the stores, too, not for patron security, but to look for labor organizers so they could have them removed. They were sued for this when a store patron was robbed and raped in one of their parking lots while the "security cameras" were all pointed back at the store entrances.

 

[PureX]

That's why there are food banks to help people with groceries.

I hope that was sarcasm.

 

[PureX]

I often hear justifications for stealing.
The real reason is always "I want it, but don't want to pay.".
But they say...
"It's OK...they budget for loss."
"They have too much."
"I deserve it."
"I'm a virtuous person, & I need it."
"They're a big evil corporation."

Or, as with food, medicine, shoes, clothes: "I need them, but have no money to buy them with, so I took them". But I guess in your world this situation never happens, so it must never be happening in anyone else's world, either. Or if it is happening, it must be their fault, somehow, so they should just suck it up and suffer the consequences.

On the other hand, Walmart could simply have chosen not to press the charge. But greed couldn't allow that. Every penny matters when you're a multi-billionaire. Because there is no such thing as "I have enough money, now", or, "I can afford to share a little".

 

[Cooky]

If I were a judge, and the defendant had children, I would give him 3 months probation only.

 

[Audie]

Or, as with food, medicine, shoes, clothes: "I need them, but have no money to buy them with, so I took them". But I guess in your world this situation never happens, so it must never be happening in anyone else's world, either. Or if it is happening, it must be their fault, somehow, so they should just suck it up and suffer the consequences.

On the other hand, Walmart could simply have chosen not to press the charge. But greed couldn't allow that. Every penny matters when you're a multi-billionaire. Because there is no such thing as "I have enough money, now", or, "I can afford to share a little".

Ah so desu ka

Each shoplifter should be means tested.

 

[Cooky]

I once knew a poor man who took some wholesome food, not candy bars, from a Walmart in a Red state that had a total retail value of $97 and some change. He got caught by loss-prevention personnel and the police came and cited him for petty theft. This was in the spring of 2017. In this Red state it may as well had been in 1817 given their backward mentality.

He subsequently made a plea deal with his public defender. His lawyer told him that in the eyes of the judge that he (a poor person) had DEPRIVED Walmart (only the richest business entity in the world).

Deprived.
Deprived.
Deprived.
Deprived.
Deprivation.

Good Lord!

No, deprivation is stealing a poor old woman's social security check out of the mail.
Deprivation is stealing some man's car or horse while leaving him to die in the desert,
for goodness sake.

How dare the legal system use terms like deprivation against the poor in regards to taking a crumb
from a "rich man's floor", so to speak!

Taking unpaid groceries might be against man's penal code law or even the Ten
Commandments, but it is hardy a heinous crime.

Stealing from the poor whatever little they posses materially is indeed evil and heinous!

My poor aching heart just totally bleeds for Walmart...

...like a TURNIP!!

How many Americans has Walmart made poor to date due to job loss?

This poor man had to do five days in a weekend jail which served the most ungodly "food". He also had to pay close to $600 in combined court costs, fines and for "rent" in that weekend jail in spite of his limited VA pension income. The man was disabled and could not bag sand for five days as a jail alternative. Idaho is not California. They have no compassion for the disabled as well. If you have medical issues in California, the jail alternatives there might be office work or filing papers. The man wasn't offered house arrest (the ANKLE BRACELET) as an alternative either in this medieval state. The older Ada County sheriff deputy also spoke some unkind words to this pitiful man, age 53, when he was released. "Get out of here and don't ever come back again!" Not a simple goodbye. Or, farewell and have better luck in life. Verbal insult (just like the word DEPRIVED) on top of financial injury and being tormented a few days by jail cuisine.

This Red state is the state of Idaho, of course. I know full well that those in authority and those with means in the state of Idaho have no mercy or compunction for the poor. But they are generous, still, as generous as a turnip (or should I say Idaho potato or sugar beet?) you are trying to squeeze blood from.

The Idaho judge must have thought he was being
"charitable" and "kind hearted" for reducing this man's fine from "the standard $500" to $250 and suspending 85 days of 90 days jail in the sentence.

The moral of the story: don't you poor dare get caught taking so much as a crumb from the rich in any Red state. Their cuisine is not as nice as the cuisine in many California jails.

Walmart probably has theft insurance anyway.

 

[Revoltingest]

Or, as with food, medicine, shoes, clothes: I need them, but have no money to buy them with, so I took them". But I guess in your world this situation never happens, so it must never be happening in anyone else's either. Or if it is happening, it must be their fault, somehow, so they should just suffer the consequences.

Walmart could simply have chosen not to press the charge. But greed couldn't allow that. Every penny matters when you're a multi-billionaire. Because there is no such thing as "I have enough money, now".

I might surmise that in your world, theft is fine & dandy.
It would go unpunished.
Consider the consequences if it were legal.

 

[Revoltingest]

Walmart probably has theft insurance anyway.

Our friend prolly has home insurance.
Stealing from him would then be OK, eh.

 

[Cooky]

I've been involved with a few such food pantries.
A huge part of the problem is that clients of the pantry often don't want healthy foods like that. They strongly prefer the heavily processed crap they'd buy at the store, if they had the money.
Tom

One time I saw a guy in a soup kitchen, and he would punch himself in the face every couple minutes.

Point being, poor people begging for food probably arent interested in health options.

...They just want the calories.

 

[Cooky]

Our friend prolly has home insurance.
Stealing from would then be OK.

No, but restitution would be senseless, in judicial sentencing.

 

[Cooky]

I might surmise that in your world, theft is fine & dandy.
It would go unpunished.
Consider the consequences if it were legal.

No sense being a wee clipe if you see one.

Seeing it doesn't make me fair puckled anyway.

 

[Cooky]

Most theives wear a sporran under their jacket. Quines....

I just walk away.

 

[PureX]

I might surmise that in your world, theft is fine & dandy.
It would go unpunished.
Consider the consequences if it were legal.

No one said anything about making it legal. No one said anything about it being "fine and dandy". All I suggested was that a corporation owned and operated by BILLIONaires could have simply chosen not to prosecute someone who stole food because he was hungry and had no money.

But greed can't do that. Greed can't allow someone with SO MUCH WEALTH to forgive someone with SO LITTLE that they felt they had to steal food, to eat. Because there is no point at which greed becomes satiated, or submits to the suffering it causes others. That point does not exist. Greed is infinite, and eternal; like a bottomless hole in the mind and heart.

And here you are defending that greed. ALWAYS defending the system that treats greed like a virtue, no matter how inhumane it becomes, I assume, because it has, and is, serving YOU just fine.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

Punishing Walmart for **** like this is what culture jamming was invented for. Any subversive act against the Walmart states is an act towards the liberation from consumerism

 

[Revoltingest]

No one said anything about making it legal. No one said anything about it being "fine and dandy".

Of course.
But it's fun to respond in kind at times.

All I suggested was that a corporation owned and operated by BILLIONaires could have simply chosen not to prosecute someone who stole food because he was hungry and had no money.

They could've.
But that would encourage theft, making the problem worse.

But greed can't do that. Greed can't allow someone with SO MUCH WEALTH to forgive someone with SO LITTLE that they felt they had to steal food, to eat. Because there is no point at which greed becomes satiated, or submits to the suffering it causes others. That point does not exist. Greed is infinite, and eternal; like a bottomless hole in the mind and heart.

And here you are defending that greed. ALWAYS defending the system that treats greed like a virtue, no matter how inhumane it becomes, because it has served YOU just fine.

You think that if one has so much, they should tolerate being stolen from?
You're defending greed...just when it harms only corporations you dislike.
One might think you have no morals....anything goes in tribe against tribe.