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Obama on 9/11

Quetzal

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Anytime you feel down, remember people like this exist. :D

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metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Quetzal said:
Anytime you feel down, remember people like this exist. :D
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I think the Republican Party under Trump should be renamed the "Alternative Facts Party".

BTW, did anyone here catch Trump's spokesman Stephen Miller on any of the morning talk shows? Talk about "alternative facts".
 
Kemosloby

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Kilgore Trout said:
A match can't burn down a forest.
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A match can burn down a forest as easy as starting a campfire. But, how many times have you seen a campfire melt a steel grilling grate? Jet fuel burns no hotter in an open air environment. Even in a controlled environment, burning jet fuel as efficiently as possible, such as in the engine of a jet plane, the heat is not sufficient to melt the steel engine in which it is burned. Even in the impossibility of steel melting by the jet explosion. The molten steel was found buried in the debris. So it would have needed to remain molten without cooling off, running down floor to floor without melting, or sat molten for 30 minutes as the buildings smoldered and stayed pooled together during the collapse..etc etc. It just isn't possible. Demolition explosives were used, in the basement and throughout the buildings in the controlled demolitions.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Kemosloby said:
A match can burn down a forest as easy as starting a campfire. But, how many times have you seen a campfire melt a steel grilling grate? Jet fuel burns no hotter in an open air environment. Even in a controlled environment, burning jet fuel as efficiently as possible, such as in the engine of a jet plane, the heat is not sufficient to melt the steel engine in which it is burned. Even in the impossibility of steel melting by the jet explosion. The molten steel was found buried in the debris. So it would have needed to remain molten without cooling off, running down floor to floor without melting, or sat molten for 30 minutes as the buildings smoldered and stayed pooled together during the collapse..etc etc. It just isn't possible. Demolition explosives were used, in the basement and throughout the buildings in the controlled demolitions.
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I'll add that even if jet fuel could melt steel, it's irrelevant.
The structure would fail by creep (plastic deformation by
weakening at high temperature) before it would melt.
 
Kilgore Trout

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Kemosloby said:
A match can burn down a forest as easy as starting a campfire. But, how many times have you seen a campfire melt a steel grilling grate? Jet fuel burns no hotter in an open air environment. Even in a controlled environment, burning jet fuel as efficiently as possible, such as in the engine of a jet plane, the heat is not sufficient to melt the steel engine in which it is burned. Even in the impossibility of steel melting by the jet explosion. The molten steel was found buried in the debris. So it would have needed to remain molten without cooling off, running down floor to floor without melting, or sat molten for 30 minutes as the buildings smoldered and stayed pooled together during the collapse..etc etc. It just isn't possible. Demolition explosives were used, in the basement and throughout the buildings in the controlled demolitions.
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Oh wow, you completely missed the point. What a shock.
 
Quetzal

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Revoltingest said:
I'll add that even if jet fuel could melt steel, it's irrelevant.
The structure would fail by creep (plastic deformation by
weakening at high temperature) before it would melt.
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Get out of here, you! With your facts and stuff.
 
Kemosloby

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Revoltingest said:
I'll add that even if jet fuel could melt steel, it's irrelevant.
The structure would fail by creep (plastic deformation by
weakening at high temperature) before it would melt.
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Relevant because there was "rivers" of molten steel in the debris. With no explanation of how it got there.
 
Kemosloby

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Revoltingest said:
Evidence?
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First responders were eyewitnesses of it. It was reported on the news. Most people remember it being reported on the news. There was also the reports of first responders boots melting from walking on the debris "very strange indeed" , photos of 9/11 debris show massive steel beam cut demolition style on a 45 degree angle with steel running down the beam from the cut, as if it was melted and cooled.
 
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