Interesting article: I worked in the CIA under Bush. Obama is right to not say "radical Islam."
Please read and discuss.
Please read and discuss.
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Obama is Avoiding the Phrase "Radical Islam" for Strategic Reasons, not to be "Politically Correct".
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BSM1
What? Me worry?
What term for these lunatics would be appropriate?
tytlyf
Not Religious
Terrorists
I am convinced that at least some of those who criticise Obama for this know exactly why he does not say radical Islam. There are some on who actually want a global war with Islam.
I dislike Obama, but I always figgered that he knew it's useful to avoid inflaming Muslims.
(He's learned the importance of being politic ever since that Henry Gates debacle.)
The guy ain't all bad.
Will Trump learn too?
If he becomes prez, I expect so.
(He's learned the importance of being politic ever since that Henry Gates debacle.)
The guy ain't all bad.
Will Trump learn too?
If he becomes prez, I expect so.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Screaming "Alluha Akbar" sorta defines them don't you think?
From the article:
Why not just state (something along lines of): Most Muslims are truly friends to the U.S. They live peacefully within our borders and have for many decades. What we are seeing in the U.S. is a rise in radical militant Muslims who are distorting not only the Muslim religion, but the perception of the world's Muslim population as being peaceful loving people. We will refer to these people as 'radical militant Muslims' when they make their attacks. But we will be clear, as often as we can, that we are still friends with the overwhelming majority of Muslims, and that we are very happy with the many we have within our borders. Anyone that acts up under the guise of Islam, but uses militant, radicalized methodology as a means to an end, we will not hesitate in naming them as a 'radical Muslims' that America chooses to be unallied with. If such Muslims are associated with any groups who share such a militant, radicalized ideology, we will destroy them. Sorry, dem da breaks.
Why not just state (something along lines of): Most Muslims are truly friends to the U.S. They live peacefully within our borders and have for many decades. What we are seeing in the U.S. is a rise in radical militant Muslims who are distorting not only the Muslim religion, but the perception of the world's Muslim population as being peaceful loving people. We will refer to these people as 'radical militant Muslims' when they make their attacks. But we will be clear, as often as we can, that we are still friends with the overwhelming majority of Muslims, and that we are very happy with the many we have within our borders. Anyone that acts up under the guise of Islam, but uses militant, radicalized methodology as a means to an end, we will not hesitate in naming them as a 'radical Muslims' that America chooses to be unallied with. If such Muslims are associated with any groups who share such a militant, radicalized ideology, we will destroy them. Sorry, dem da breaks.
Too long & nuanced ?
When has the strategy of not saying it paid off anywhere in the world? Show me the countries getting along just fine with militant Islamic terrorists who have found a magical way to not get them upset and that is working well for everyone (including all moderate Muslims). Seems like there needs to be better leadership on this than what we've decided is righteous but rather ineffective in the last 10 to 1000 years.
It would be impossible for me to give examples.
It's a judgement call.
But consider French cartoonists....their murder was clearly fueled by offending violent Muslim radicals.
Action is required.
Harsh words accomplish nothing.
I'm going for accurate words that don't hide behind false premise of "good strategy."
tytlyf
Not Religious
No, terrorists come in all forms. Christians, muslims, atheists etc. Should we point out the religion of the terrorist?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Supposed the terrorist screamed "This is in the name of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ" just before he blew himself up in a crowded airport? Couldn't we refer to him as a radical Christian?
tytlyf
Not Religious
Nope. Arabic is a language, doesn't matter if it's in English either. For instance, a lot of the planned parenthood terrorists are doing so because of christianity. I'm sure they're using similar words while doing it. I think religion poisons the human race and creates segregation. Thankfully it's dying worldwide.
One can say things which are accurate.
One can say opinions which one thinks are accurate, but are really value judgements.
But this does not mean such things are useful.
They can be counter-productive.
tytlyf
Not Religious
They'll complain about it. They'll say "why did he take so long?" "He doesn't mean it since he loves muslim countries more than America." etc etc. All conspiracy theories and propaganda.
This is either a new fallacy, or I can't find an applicable one.
Call it "Condemnation by prediction of unreasonable reaction".