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Nuits word is six and fifty (Book of the Law mathematical puzzle debate)

Discussion in 'Occultism DIR' started by ButcherGEIN, Mar 30, 2006.

  1. ButcherGEIN

    ButcherGEIN Member

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    As we all know who have read it, there are several intricate mathematical puzzles encrypted within the book of the law (liber CCXX) written by aliester crowley. I find it incredibly interesting the way many people have attemped to explain these puzzles and I'll offer my own interpretations in this particular forum.


    Firstly, we'll take a trip back to elementary mathematics for this particular portion especially order of operation. As everyone knows:

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
    1. Calculations must be done from left to right.
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2. Calculations in brackets (parenthesis) are done first. When you have more than one set of brackets, do the inner brackets first.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3. Exponents (or radicals) must be done next.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4. Multiply and divide in the order the operations occur.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]5. Add and subtract in the order the operations occur.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4 and 5 are of particular interest in this seeing as how there are no radicals or parenthesis here. The order is multiply, divide, add, subtract. Even the most complex equations are reduced using these principles.
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    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Now we jump to the book of the law for this passage:
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    "24. I am Nuit, and my word is six and fifty.
    25. Divide, add, multiply, and understand."

    Crowley made a mistake here. He added the 6 and 50 to get 56 and then divided 6 by 50 to get 0.12. He then assumed that 0 represented Nuit and the . represented Hadit. *edit apparently he didn't follow the order either... admittedly I have no idea why he chose that particular order... perhaps because there is the word AND in between 6 and 50 which in mathematics connotes addition of the two surrounding values.

    Were I feel crowley missed was where she (Nuit) explicitly tells you to deviate from the conventional order of ops and follow the path that she lays out. With that in mind we have:

    50 / 6 = 8.333333 repeating... (Note: remember that "4. Every number is infinite; there is no difference" so to me that should mean that we can drop all the infinite 3's... if you round it up it comes out to be 8.3)

    8 + 3 = 11 (Note: "Chapter 2-16. I am The Empress & the Hierophant. Thus eleven, as my bride is eleven." not terribly important but definitely an interesting parallel")

    Now this is where most would stop. This is 11 and the sign of Nuit. That in itself validates that this is nuits word. But to truly UNDERSTAND her word you must take it one step further.

    1 * 1 = 1

    In my eyes, this is one of the most interesting phenomena in math because it is entirely unique. No other number, times itself, is itself. If we take this as just a math equation there isn't much to learn from it. However, if we look at this in a way that will allow us to assign a deeper meaning to the equation, this can be taken many different ways. It's really up to each person to find their own meaning in it I think.

    To me, it means that a one can be multiplied (which is generally an act achieving a great increase unless dealing with a single negative number*) unto itself without becoming anything more than just a one. How I relate that to life is that you can increase in whatever way you please but each individual will always only equal one person within themselves and we all have the same value no matter what.

    What do YOU think? Please save all prophecies of christian doom for your children. Knockout

    *when dealing with a single negative one in this you will obviously get a result of -1. You have two options... perform the same operation again (multiplying) with the result of the last operation (-1) and make it a positive one. Or you can realize that all numbers are infinite and in this system negative and positive are the same thing. going -1 steps in a direction is still going 1 step in a direction... it's just the opposite of the direction you would have been going if you would have went to +1.
     
  2. Nehustan

    Nehustan Well-Known Member

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    I got to eleven from NU slightly differently, 50 + 6 = 56 = 5+6 = 11. I like to think of Nu and knowledge of space from within the tree as being rooted in Daath, which is and is not, the number 11 being effectively outside the decemfid of the sephira.
     
  3. ButcherGEIN

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    As I go through and decrypt various portions of the book I'm going to post them here to get public feedback on my ideas.
     
  4. ButcherGEIN

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    Am I right in reading that Daath is the point of conscious realization?

    The wierd thing about these puzzles is that you can slice them so many ways and still come up with the same answers. To me, adding the 5 and the 6 just seemed a little too obvious of a way to come up with 11... goes to show you that no matter how complex of a look you want to take at this, it is what it is which is pretty much whatever you take it to mean.
     
  5. evearael

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    0*0=0. On the math side of things, both 1 & 11 are prime numbers. Also, from 1 & 1 the entire Fibonacci sequence is derived, and that pattern is found again and again in nature. So, you could argue that it shows Nuit's presence in the world... but, feel free to ignore me on this, as this is not my faith. I just adore number theory. :)
     
  6. Nehustan

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    I actually experienced Daath, and the abyss in very real terms. I also think of it as a purgatory of sorts where one experiences the 'Dead Head' that preceeds the aquisition of the philosopher's stone and thus the ability to change the base lead of the anima into the shining gold of the heart and take the rightful inheritance of the crown of Adam Kadmon.
     
  7. ButcherGEIN

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    That is an excellent observation and one I hadn't realized (yet it's very very true... admittedly I didn't make the connection due to my lack of knowledge about the fibonacci sequence). I wouldn't ignore any theory that was tastefully posed and actually made a bit of sense to me. In my eyes, everyones point of view on this subject (believer or not) is valid because it's simply a matter of doing the math and using yourself to assign it a meaning.

    In my eyes, 0*0=0 is a totally different (but also unique) operation. The problem with it fitting within my framework is that to me 0 is not a number, but a lack of a number. So of course if you multiplied nothing by nothing you would get nothing... I'm sure one could draw their own conclusions from assigning a message to 0 * 0 = 0 as well
     
  8. Nehustan

    Nehustan Well-Known Member

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    I actually put together a thread which in part considered 'The Geometry and Philosophy of Mathematics' (post #30), Nuit (post #41) and goes on to consider the Golden Mean and the Fibonacci sequence (posts #59 & #60). I didn't get many takers to contribute to the thread but would love you guys to take a look and give me any feedback/contributions.

     
  9. Nehustan

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    I personally read 00 as Ain Soph, with 0 being Ain. I totally didn't see the multiplication symbol. The veils around Nuit, are just that, veils, thus one could say 000=00=0.
     
  10. Scarlett Wampus

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    Nehustan that thread on the Ain Soph Aur is long! Sorry I didn't look at it before (I just noticed you mentioned it on the thread about initiation), and you're wrong about me probably 'knowing it all'. To begin with I'm pitifully lacking in any understanding of Islam, so much of that thread went straight over my head, heheh.

    On topic now, have any of you seen this website before: http://www.abrahadabra.com/ ? Some time ago I used to be a member of a small group of Taoists online who were particularly interested in some of the more hardcore/obscure aspects of Taoist Yoga (Chi Kung). One of them came across that website and there was some curiousity about the references to the I Ching and Nu Gua. Although it was generally decided there was nothing we could use from that website, it sparked off a huge debate on Magick in general (parallels with what we were trying to do), and I wish I still had the logs from some of the discussions that went on because they were fascinating. Anyway, I thought you might that website interesting.
     
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    I haven't seen that site but will look...wow just looked will have to find a spare moment to take this in.
     
  12. michel

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    Ooooohhhhhm, thank you !!!! I can see I'll have to spend hours on this one as well.:D
     
  13. Ramacharaka

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    24. I am Nuit, and my word is six and fifty.
    25. Divide, add, multiply, and understand."

    well...
    the star of David has 6 points and 6 is also associated with the beast in the book of revelations, as Crowley's very christian mother called him a beast and he went on to call himself the great beast 666. 50 is halfway through a century just as it is said that the book of the law would make people mad who lived in the earlier part of the eon, as hitler the Jew tried to end a pointless eon halfway through the 20th century, and this also represents dualism, the Egyptian Hermes the thrice great 3 also being half of 6...the book was dictated in egypt
    "Thus eleven, as my bride is eleven."
    -11 is the number symbolic of initiation in christian magic (tarot, etc) and also represents dualism 1+1=2 and how you are just starting on a journey when settling down to have kids, a form of "multiplication" of 2 into 1. This way of solving 11 mabye says if you multiply dualism instead of adding it, that this is the solution to dualism. 33 also is the highest degree given in freemasonry and this dualisticly applies to 8.33333 and the number 666 as 666 is some form of egotism and also 8 is the degree before 9 and there are three steps to each master degree level the first being the third degree. Crowley possessed a 33rd degree title but I bet it was honary as was reagan's.

    Its really just the solution to dualism and goes quite nicely with

    "for I have crushed a universe, and nought remains"
    a quote from later on in the book that would be something that might be said upon solving dualism.

    Your sig I might add..."I flap my wings in the face of mohammed and bliund him, I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs on the cross" from the book of the law, is of course total blasphemy and refers to an ancient Egyptian walled garden being raided and sacred sacrament plants going to neandrathal opium devil kings...Crowley took no pride in that although it was mentioned. it is the same troll that makes gypsies steal although it is the robber troll himself usually. it is why they made LSD illegal, a supposedly "masonicly ok" strain of grain being developed into lsd and released into society. there is something like it but it is reserved for priests (like crowley got a nice hit to write this book) and there is much approved LSD sacred to other things that was made and released. Crowley was not a blasphemer, he just warned you
     
  14. Octavia156

    Octavia156 OTO/EGC

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    Where have you got your facts from here my friend? The 'Blasphemy' is simply a declaration of the end of the Aeon of worshipping the 'Dying God'

    Crowley may have dabbled heavily in the drugs of his day, but he was certainly not under the influence during the writing of the Book of the Law., its important to remember the Book of the Law was 'dictated' to Crowley, it was arguably a work of his His Genius, but it was certainly not a conscious creation of his human self.
    The Gematria itself proves this, as well as Fr Achad's fulfillment of the prophecy:

    "There come one to follow thee: he shall expound it" II:76

    There is no doubt in my mind that something truely mystical happened to Crowley when he wrote this book... and quite possibly that it is a message from Something beyond this plane of existance. It is not unlike God(s) to dictate to prophets is it?

    The Book of the Law IS a holy book, no less valuable or intriguing than any religious text ever written, if you have any interest in True Religion whatsoever, I highly recommend you do not burn your copy ;)
     
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