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Now its Pope Emeritus

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by pearl, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. pearl

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    A law firm’s report on how abuse cases were handled in the Archdiocese of Munich and Freising incriminated retired Pope Benedict XVI, with lawyers accusing him of misconduct in four cases during his tenure as Munich archbishop.

    Although he mostly stayed out of public view in retirement, in April 2019 the former pope published what he described as “notes” on the abuse crisis, tracing the roots of the scandal to a loss of a firm faith and moral certainty that began in the 1960s. The church’s response, he insisted, must focus on a recovery of a sense of faith and of right and wrong.

    Four volumes with almost 1,900 pages comprise the “litany of horror” that lawyers presented. They spoke of the “total failure” of a system, at least until 2010.
    In a written statement, 94-year-old former pope had said he did not take part in a decisive meeting on the case when he was the archbishop of Munich. At the news conference where the legal report was presented, Wastl read out the minutes of that meeting. In it, then-Archbishop Ratzinger is mentioned in several places as a rapporteur on other topics.

    In a written statement, 94-year-old former pope had said he did not take part in a decisive meeting on the case when he was the archbishop of Munich. At the news conference where the legal report was presented, Wastl read out the minutes of that meeting. In it, then-Archbishop Ratzinger is mentioned in several places as a rapporteur on other topics.
    Vatican to study German abuse report that faults Pope Benedict | America Magazine

    One has to wonder if this is in part the reason for Benedict XVI's resigination
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Could be.

    Let me just say that I've never been fond of him, including even before he became pope, as I believe he went too far in trying to defend the Church instead of admitting and then dealing with the problems.
     
  3. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    If you knew what's going on in Italy...lately.

    There are media openly siding with Ratzinger saying he is the real Pope.
    And some affirm that Ratzinger was forced to resign in 2013.
    I will not affirm that it dealt with blackmailing, back then.
    But now, it seems that there is lots of evidence that Benedict didn't want to resign.

    Resignation does not exist as for the munus...a pope is a pope until his death.
    As Wojtiła showed.
     
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    Are you speaking of Ratzinger?
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Yep.
     
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    His last public speech in Castelgandolfo.

    He says : Let's go on together for the good of the Church".
     
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    I agree. If one compares his presence on the balcony in his first greeting as pope his very broad smile said to me, 'look ma, I did it', when compared to Francis, 'pray for me'. I disliked him also before becoming pope, his reputation as the Vatican's 'rottweiler'. As head of the CDF he issued a 'note' against the writings of 'deMello' which I used in prayer groups as a catechist, which I continued to use. But as for Ratzinger the theologian I have enjoyed every book of his that I have read. I would seem as though, as for others, the first priority is to 'protect' the Church from scandal. We know how that ended.
     
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  8. anna.

    anna. Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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    It was certainly already a problem before the 60s. It goes back many centuries, but what received widespread coverage after the Boston Spotlight investigation broke it wide open goes back to the 40s and 50s predominantly because the victims were still alive to bring suit, the perps were still alive to be charged, and/or the statute of limitations had not expired. But certainly this is a centuries-old problem at the least.
     
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