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Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by Truth in love, Sep 21, 2022 at 8:36 PM.

  1. Truth in love

    Truth in love Well-Known Member

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    There is a major difference between best buddies and having sex. I find nothing in the Bible condemning good friends.
     
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    It means when youre trans, it's pretty common to have sex as your birth sex, and later as your transitioned to sex.
    A FtM, for example, having sex with a man as a woman we would say that's straight but sex as a man with a man we'd call that gay. But going from she to he, is it really that important to figure out and have a label for?
    I'm not really sure how to describe it, especially as this isn't the eros room. But, I can say, with women it was more just trying to make myself normal and living in denial, and though I'm not really into women I'm not turned off either.
    I'd rather just be human on this one.
     
  3. Truth in love

    Truth in love Well-Known Member

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    Cleary you missed the core concepts of the Bible. Also the point of the thread.
     
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    "It means when youre trans, it's pretty common to have sex as your birth sex, and later as your transitioned to sex.
    A FtM, for example, having sex with a man as a woman we would say that's straight but sex as a man with a man we'd call that gay. But going from she to he, is it really that important to figure out and have a label for?"

    That makes no sense to me. If you have the same sexual organs as a man and have sex with a man, to me thats gay sex.
     
  5. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein I'm not deaf, I'm just a real bad listener
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    Would you ever describe your male best friend in such a way?
     
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    It depends. In the Hunter S Thompson novel Hell's Angels he mentions an Angel getting oral sex, from a man, while he's sitting at a bar and he said he's not gay because he's just getting his dick sucked and not doing the sucking.
     
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    Saint Frankenstein I'm not deaf, I'm just a real bad listener
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    I never had sex as a "woman", personally. Only after I transitioned. I don't think I could've stomached having sex and being viewed as a woman. Even trying to have cybersex as that failed pretty badly and was extremely uncomfortable in a gross way.
     
  8. Truth in love

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    Gal 1:
    6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
    7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
    8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.


    Now change is not all bad, Moses brought about changes, Christ did and so did Peter. I’m good with Gods servants doing this, but the arguments I see are not this. It’s we decided God did not know what He was talking about. That’s a very anti Biblical would view
     
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  9. We Never Know

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    And in J.K. Rowling novel, Harry was a sorcerer. A book doesn't make it true.
    If it did,, well then there is the bible
     
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    Yet what authority does the Bible have over free individuals who do not assign significance to the Bible, at least not in the way you prefer to do?
     
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    Probably the question of whether the Bible is a source of morality is not in the scope of the question, even though it is a legitimate question. I guess a legitimate answer would be that those who believe the Bible see it as a source of moral guidance and so it is for that for them.
     
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    Well it’s hard to say what the original writing were. If I recall correctly the documents went through many copies and several translations.

    I’ve had times when I was very close to a roommate, we spent tons of time together and frankly some observing us might have thought we were gay. We were very tight as close as I’ve be to anyone not in my family. Military vets often get very close to their buddies.
     
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    Same sexes can deeply love each other and not in a sexual way.
    -Father/son
    -Mother/daughter
    -Through trama together
    -Through living life as best pals
    -Etc
     
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    So the thread is not really talking to you and maybe should be in the Christian or Abrahamic DIR or something.
     
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    None. Same what you think about religion has no bearing on those that follow religion. But yet somehow in your head you believe what you think out trumps what they think.

    But always remember you are unique.... Just like everyone else
     
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    Did the New Testament say anywhere explicitly that homosexuality is allowed? I am not advocating anything but just asking for a clarification. As far as I know or what I have read in the Bible, homosexuality is put in the category of major sin. Paul being the writer who attempts to abolish the laws of the Tanakh puts it as a sin. Directly. Could you explain that?
     
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    You want Bronze Age justice from the Tanakh? Try Exodus 22:18.

    Then stop sitting on your hands while all those witches out there are suffered to live!

    To arms, Truth in love, to arms! Your God calls you to kill and kill and kill till there are no more witches!
     
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    I think it goes well beyond the sin of homosexuality, illegitimate sex outside of God’s design is rampant in the culture. On one hand, people that deny or ignore God and His instructions on this subject in the biblical scriptures can’t be expected to have any desire to pay attention to the Creator’s wisdom. The negative drawback is that once a civilization gets to a certain point in deviating from God’s design and order, it usually brings difficult consequences and/or is on the brink of collapse.
    The following article is somewhat pertinent...

    Lovers Of Pleasure More Than Lovers Of God: Experts Warn STDs In The United States Are 'Out Of Control' - Harbingers Daily
     
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    The opening post assumes an actual God exists, and that it has an authority through the Bible that is something we mortals must obey. So it is fair to ask where this authority is in reality, yes?

    If the opening post was only a person confused in their own beliefs and moral attitudes, then my question would be needed.
     
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    As I just pointed out, the opening post is suggesting that the Bible has some sort of real authority over all mortals. Is sin limited only to believers? Can a gay atheist not sin?

    I'm tolerant of anyone who wants to believe in ideas for their meaning, but as soon as a person assumes their personal and/or collective beliefs have authority over free individuals who reject those ideas, then a line has been crossed.
     
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